Labour Really Don't Like Democracy Do They?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36770627

[Gromit]

Unless you KNOW that ms Eagle's window was broken by a Labour Party member, the question is void. Likewise if Corbyn and Eagle are getting death threats, that is terrible, but if you don't know who is making the death threats, then you cannot apportion blame to the party, rather than individuals.

[ToraToraTora]

Have a day off gromit, it's 99% certain it's Labour supporters, the rest of us couldn't care less except for the entertainment value.

[THECORBYLOON]

When you thought Remain were going to win the referendum you said, "looks like the traitors have it." Are you a fan of democracy only when you agree with the outcome?

[Hypognosis]

@DTCwordfan

Handy to know what happens next after that petition. But, if this is the wrong thread, which is the right one?

It sort-of fits here, all the same.

[DTCwordfan]

Yes, I know that, Hypognosis - have been thrown by some bad news this evening.....anyway, it was relevant to this one... http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1501975-6.html

[ToraToraTora]

no idea what you are on about TCL.

[THECORBYLOON]

You criticize Labour for going against the majority yet you were calling what you believed to be the majority, traitors, when you thought Remain had won the referendum.

[ludwig]

// it does seem rather 'thin' for someone to be moving into Number 10 because 199 people voted for her, don't you think? //

I'm surprised you're not defending the situation as you always do for Gordon Brown Quizmonster. At least she got 199 votes. I don't think he got any at all did he?

[naomi24]

Hmmm.... Did Tony Blair vote for him?

[Quizmonster]

It is absurd to claim, as so many people do, that "The electorate do not vote for the Prime Minister." That is true only in that individuals' do not actually put a physical cross against the PM's name on their voting-slips in their local constituencies.
At general elections, there are multitudes of electors who wouldn't even recognise their own MP if he/she came knocking at their front door! What these people do is put their crosses against the name of the person standing locally for the party...and, therefore, leader...they want in power. Do you seriously contend that no one in Dorset ever "voted" for Mrs Thatcher even though she stood in Finchley?

As for those of you who so often refer to Gordon Brown's "inheriting" Number Ten, he was unopposed in the planned election and thus won it 'by acclaim', as it were. This is standard in just about every voting situation in the UK, even for the post of secretary at the local tennis club! In such circumstances, votes are NOT required.

[Gromit]

Jim Callaghan had a coronation instead of an election. And so did Gordon Brown.
So I am sure May can be as successful as those two as Prime Minister.

[ichkeria]

Labour's problem surely is too much 'democracy' Ss I recall even the op voted Corbyn in, and he's not even a member of the party.
Did Corbyn really recently be death threats I wonder. Not sure I can trust the man's word any more.
I do concede tho that he's certainly introduced a new way of doing politics!

[Jackdaw33]

Check your facts about Callaghan, Gromit, before you spout.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK)_leadership_election,_1976

[Quizmonster]

If not Jim Callaghan, Gromit, then certainly John Major. Perhaps Mrs May will be as "successful" a Prime Minister as he was!!

[Jackdaw33]

Heseltine and Hurd stood against Major.

[Quizmonster]

You're quite right, Jack. My reference to Major was regarding the fact that he held the PM's office for a lengthy period before calling a general election. That, of course, was precisely what Tories were whingeing about re Gordon Brown. So, might we have a "Bottler" May?
(I really must think of an equivalent of 'bottler' that begins with 'm'! Any ideas?)

[Quizmonster]

To bottle means to lose one's nerve which is much the same as being a coward. Roget's Thesaurus offers 'milksop' as a synonym for coward, so what about "Milksop May" as a sobriquet?

[Jackdaw33]

Nothing new there. Eden waited a month, Macmillan two and a half years, Home one year, Callaghan three years, Major sixteen months, Brown three years.

[Jackdaw33]

The point is that May can no longer call an election at a time of her own choosing. That prerogative was removed by the Fixed Terms Parliament Act.

[Quizmonster]

No, the point is that, now May is PM, she can introduce legislation to put an end to the Fixed Terms Parliament Act.