Looks Like Jezza Is Staying......

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36778135

[naomi24]

Custard pies all round, I say! Sperlatt!!

[jim360]

I had assumed it was a good opportunity to grab some popcorn, too.

[naomi24]

I think we're all stuffed full of popcorn watching this on-going comedy of errors!!

[New Judge]

“May says it is unfair to be PM without an election and
calls a snap election”

I expect James Allan, the bumptious Leftie on LBC, to be ignorant of the facts, Peter (he was expounding a similar theory on his phone-in this morning). But not you. I thought you were better informed.

As anybody – especially Mrs May - knows, thanks to her predecessor Mr Cameron’s “Fixed Term Parliament Act” she can do no such thing. That Act determines that Parliament cannot be dissolved before 7th May 2020 without the support of two thirds (434) of Westminster MPs. Tories and the Rest have just 418 seats. This means that at least 16 Labour MPs must vote for an early election. Can you see that happening, especially if Jezza is re-elected as leader? Come to that can you see any other minor parties - especially the SNP who can only increase their number of seats by a maximum of one - supporting dissolution if it seems likely that the Tories will be returned with an increased majority?

“..other baffling recent events were people voting for Brexit and being in complete demial of the damage caused”

Who is in denial about what damage, Peter?

[Jackdaw33]

In my lifetime there have been six occasions where there has been a change of PM mid-term without any demand for a general election, so why now?

[mushroom25]

i can hardly wait for the leadership contest to conclude with the inevitable corbyn victory, to watch the parliamentary party go into humiliating uber-grovel mode as they fall in line behind a strengthened left wing leadership..... they'll have to do that won't they? what's the alternative for them otherwise?

[Peter Pedant]

// Peter (he was expounding a similar theory on his phone-in this morning). But not you. I thought you were better informed. //

do I say sorry ?or do I come out of my corner fighting ?

Yup - biting and scratcching - this is the news thread - or as 3t might write "nooz fred", and not the legal fred where I try to abide by the law a lot of the time and give an honest opinion.
yes I had noticed ( I thought I was the only one ) that the fixed term parliaments act was in force which I think requires an enhanced majority to repeal it
My list was a prediction of the future.
there is no legislation in force to ensure any of the other predictions
and we know that politicians dont know an awful lot of law
( the fol-de-rol around 50 MPs and Corbyn seems to reinforce the idea of a n average politiician not being able to read a rule book and follow it )
and I did ( putting my law hat - a sloucher - a bit like Oscar WILD ! ) say that it would be "unfair" - and not "unlawful" - to be PM - which I would say is different . so I did pick my Mystic Meg words carefully

No I did not intend to say that she is required to hold a general election but that she would foresee the opposition fall apart and capitalise on it - with specious reasons that erm people can understand

But thank you anyway for reading and thinking about my post - - PP

[Gromit]

It now looks like there will be a third name on the ballot paper, that of Owen Smith, who I confess I have never heard of.
So the opposition to Corbyn is now split. Can't the Labour Party do ANYTHING right?

[Peter Pedant]

// In my lifetime there have been six occasions where there has been a change of PM mid-term without any demand for a general election, so why now?//

oh, sorry boys - law toot coming up. There was a demand on this very point - from the queen no less in 1962

In 1962 Mac - Super Mac gave up - and said to her Maj "here is your new PM". The new fella had emeerged from 'smoke filled rooms' - Lord Hume as he then was
The attorney general said "your maj you must accede ...."
so.....
she instructed private lawyers for a private opinion - who sent for an opinion to Sir Ivor Jennings at Trinity Hall. and they asked if she had to accept the prime ministers nomination for a new prime minister

doesnt everyone know this ?

and the advice from Sir Ive ( this is a populist fred innit ) was that she could choose anyone but really they had to command a majority in the House of Commons or else the Queens Speech would be voted out...and they also had to accept
so that really the game was up.

then he wrote a book about it
The Queens govt 1964 on amazon at £ 0.01 p TODAY

so it hasnt been settled ....
or as a lawyer you may say - yes it has actually ....

[Cloverjo]

It all looks quite bad for Labour, but at least I know which party to vote for next time around. I like Corbyn, and Labour always comes a dismal third in my ward, but voting LibDem (which I did the election before last) is not going to help next time around. I'll just vote Lab and put up with another Con government.

[Gromit]

Cloverjo,
That is assuming the LibDems are still around in 2020 (or whenever the ele tion is).

The LibDems are just 8. Many commentators believe Labour will split and a new party will be created where the LibDems currently occupy. It may even pick up some lefty Tories. UKIP will probably disappear and some rejoin the new Conservative party. So your choice will be The Conservatives, The Deomocrats (New Party), or Labour (traditional old Labour).

[jambutty]

He's certainly got staying power, I'll give him that.

[Jackdaw33]

At least get the year right, PP, it was 1963.

[Cloverjo]

I think I'll stick with the Old Labour, even though they have no chance. I really don't want any of the others,

[ToraToraTora]

gromit: "....(or whenever the ele tion is). ..." - you know when it is, stop bleating, despite your equine guano last week, there will be no early GE and A50 is going to be invoked. Go and live in France or somewhere while you still can.

[Jackdaw33]

Equine guano? Surely you mean bovine guano.

[bhg481]

Since guano is bird droppings, the nearest you can get is from centaurs.

[Jackdaw33]

...or Hippogriffs (cf Harry Potter).

[albaqwerty]

I don't think labour are going to win in Scotland or Wales at next election.
Northern Ireland have their own parties too, are labour on their way out?

[HansUrbancka]

@ New Judge...Is it Not possible for a new Prime Minister to persuade Parliament to repeal Cameron's Act...'Fixed Term Parliament Act' and call a general Election whenever it is considered the right time to win.

Hans.