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Avatar Image mikey4444
AOG....I am sure that we have discussed this recently here on AB, but I can't find it this morning !
08:17 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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this is just going to escalate until some sense descends on both sides.
08:18 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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Everyone lives matters.
08:19 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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Can anybody find the thread that we discussed this and other American shooting on .....it seems to have disappeared !
08:20 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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Anyone can see,
Anyway the wind blows.
A thread will be deleted.
08:21 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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As the specialist said on TV this morning why do ordinary members of the public think they ned assault rifles.
08:24 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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mikey4444

This one only happened yesterday morning, there was another similar a few days ago.
08:25 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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Thanks OG...that explains it then.

So, to answer AOG....yes, all lives matter !
08:25 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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AOG...The previous thread was deleted apparently.
08:26 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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mikey4444

/// So, to answer AOG....yes, all lives
matter ! ///

I never said they didn't, but it seems that some only think black lives matter.
08:29 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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Police are armed to protect the public, the criminals are armed to defend themselves from the police once they have committed a crime using their guns, the public are arming themselves with heavier weapons to defend themselves from the criminals who are getting heavier weapons.

And so, the carousel goes on and on and on......
08:30 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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mikey4444

/// AOG...The previous thread was deleted apparently. ///

Then it seems one has to be on AB 27/7 not to miss anything.

Let's see how far this one will be allowed to go.
08:32 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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24/7
08:33 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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Can't see any reason why the other one was removed. It got a bit heated but hardly unusual on AB !
08:38 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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I think you got it right first time AOG, :-)

Remember it's forbidden to chat about removed threads but if you don't know if a thread has been removed, then that's just not fair imo
08:38 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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Some people have undoubtedly co-opted and perverted the "Black lives matter" movement for their own ends, but the slogan is absolutely not exclusive in the way people who reply "all lives matter" back. Of course they do. The recent death of yet more policemen is shocking, tragic and wholly unwarranted as a reaction. But just to be clear, if someone says "Black Lives Matter", they [should] mean it in the same way as a slogan to "save our rainforests". Saying that wouldn't mean "I don't care about any other type of forest"; merely that, at the moment, the rainforest is particularly under threat currently and so merits extra attention. Black people in the US are, or appear to be, particularly in danger of police discrimination ending in death (by about 2 times proportionally, compared to White people). Hence, a "Black Lives Matter" slogan is wholly reasonable. It doesn't mean not caring about any other type of life. There's no reason to respond "All Lives Matter" as if we didn't know this already. It misses the point.

08:39 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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@jim

On Twitter it has already reached the stage where the pedantic, language-obsessives' trotting out of the truism "all lives matter" is viewed as an insulting attempt to negate the original problem and/or sweep it under the carpet.

It is as if some people see BLM and read an invisible "only…" into it. They kept it short to save letters, for Twitter but the missing operative word is "…too", or "…also". They began by imploring white America to treat them equally.

Which it was conspicuously failing to do. As in "Oh, I'm sorry, I thought it my tazer".

08:53 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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^^^ Not my own work, other than it being a summary of this: -

http://fusion.net/story/170591/the-next-time-someone-says-all-lives-matter-show-them-these-5-paragraphs/
08:57 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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AOG.......don't worry....yours is a valid post worthy of discussion........the subject matter was not the reason for the removal of the previous thread..........x
08:57 Mon 18th Jul 2016
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Did you see the placard held up by a black man saying something along the lines of 'we didn't say only black lives matter, it was the media'
08:58 Mon 18th Jul 2016

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