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What Planet Is This Potential Labour Leader On?
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Come on round for a cup of tea ISIS, yeah right like they will chat to you mate.
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ISIS isn't a definable group it is an ideology, the objectives of that ideology are the same now as has existed for over a millennia, viz, the total eradication of Jews, Christians and everyone (including even other Muslims who happen not to be Sunni) , and the formation of a world-order based their mediaeval beliefs and lies.
You cannot negotiate with jihadism any more than you can negotiate with any other concept; Communism, Capitalism or whatever.
You cannot negotiate with jihadism any more than you can negotiate with any other concept; Communism, Capitalism or whatever.
Khandro - //ISIS isn't a definable group it is an ideology, the objectives of that ideology are the same now as has existed for over a millennia, viz, the total eradication of Jews, Christians and everyone (including even other Muslims who happen not to be Sunni) , and the formation of a world-order based their mediaeval beliefs and lies.
You cannot negotiate with jihadism any more than you can negotiate with any other concept; Communism, Capitalism or whatever. //
They would beg to differ - and maybe looking at things from their perspective would be a good start.
If you want to try and reach a solution to a problem, you need to start looking for common ground - humanity in this case.
Starting from a position where you don't recognise the legitimacy of the other side's organisation is not really likely to set them off in a mood to listen to what you are trying to say.
You cannot negotiate with jihadism any more than you can negotiate with any other concept; Communism, Capitalism or whatever. //
They would beg to differ - and maybe looking at things from their perspective would be a good start.
If you want to try and reach a solution to a problem, you need to start looking for common ground - humanity in this case.
Starting from a position where you don't recognise the legitimacy of the other side's organisation is not really likely to set them off in a mood to listen to what you are trying to say.
Ludwig - //I don't think it would be morally right to negotiate with criminals of this magnitude even if it were possible, which it obviously isn't. //
Your stance is a common one - it was the default position of Margaret Thatcher with the IRA.
But because some people overcame their hatred and antipathy enough to negotiate, we have peace in Northern Ireland today.
Wrinkling your nose and saying ugh isn't going to cut it.
Your stance is a common one - it was the default position of Margaret Thatcher with the IRA.
But because some people overcame their hatred and antipathy enough to negotiate, we have peace in Northern Ireland today.
Wrinkling your nose and saying ugh isn't going to cut it.
Ludwig - //I don't think you can compare the IRA with ISIS by the way. It's a whole different thing. //
I am not comparing the IRA and ISIS.
I am pointing out the identical attitude towards both - "We don't negotiate with terrorists' is word-for-word the same approach.
Negotiation did take place - with a positive result - there is a lesson to be learned there.
I am not comparing the IRA and ISIS.
I am pointing out the identical attitude towards both - "We don't negotiate with terrorists' is word-for-word the same approach.
Negotiation did take place - with a positive result - there is a lesson to be learned there.
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