Political Correctness Takes Over In Our Jails.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3752186/Warders-PC-stop-jihadi-poison-spreading-jails.html

[Mamyalynne]

It has always been the sad truth that the best place to learn to be a criminal is whilst you are in Prison - it isn't new and yes it's very worrying indeed.

[dannyk13]

I can't believe what I heard a prison representative say on the news.He maintains the right way to deal with this problem is for the prison officers to gain the trust of these fanatics and re-educate them to give up their hate preachings.

[youngmafbog]

I ordinary cases he is right. But these people dont want to listen and there is no way ever they will start to trust a screw, especially a 'Western' one.

[andy-hughes]

danny - //He maintains the right way to deal with this problem is for the prison officers to gain the trust of these fanatics and re-educate them to give up their hate preachings. //

It's preferable to the alternative - give them evidence that the West really does hate Islam, and get them even more fired up for when they are released.

[jno]

prisons don't deter people from crime, they just give the public satisfaction that Something Is Being Done. The main deterrent generally is growing up: crime is a young man's game and most criminals just give it up as they acquire families and responsibilities. I suspect this may even prove to be true of hardline Islamists - there seem to be lots of kids running off to join Isis but not many over-30s.

Whatever: don't expect jails to be reformatories, it's never happened.

[whiskeryron]

Let us face up to it, we shouldn't be holding these hate prisoners at all. Do we really want them languishing in our prisons at considerable public expense ? Deport them to the nearest Arab country asap.

[dannyk13]

Andy, do you honestly think that these fanatics will trust any prison officers?

[andy-hughes]

dannyk13 - //Andy, do you honestly think that these fanatics will trust any prison officers? //

In reality, probably not.

But given the situation that jihadists in jail find themselves - in their eyes they are being imprisoned by the infidel who hates Islam.

I would be less inclined to underline that perception by smacking them around the head with a nightstick which simply inflames their sense of injustice, and more worryingly, gives them plenty to tell impressionable young Muslim men when they come out back into their communities.

That is not say I advocate tea and biscuits in the warden's office, but let's try not to make a volatile situation any worse by underlining prejudices that are already firmly in place.

[jambutty]

If only wr.

[Khandro]

They are to be put in a separate section of the prison it now seems.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37151089

[Khandro]

Good news; Abu is telling those not in jail to leave the country!
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/702457/Abu-Qatada-Islam-Twitter-Jordan

Bad news;https://www.rt.com/news/356708-pisa-italy-mosque-rally/

Good but too late news;http://theartnewspaper.com/news/news/islamic-extremist-pleads-guilty-to-destroying-timbuktu-mausoleums-in-landmark-trial/?utm_source=daily_aug22_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email_daily

[Khandro]

https://www.rt.com/news/356708-pisa-italy-mosque-rally/

[Khandro]

http://theartnewspaper.com/news/news/islamic-extremist-pleads-guilty-to-destroying-timbuktu-mausoleums-in-landmark-trial/?utm_source=daily_aug22_2016&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email_daily

[anotheoldgit]

Mamyalynne

Yes but you are missing the point, certain inmates are getting away with their criminal ways, because those who should be clamping down on them, can't or are too afraid to do so in case they are classed as racists.

[Mamyalynne]

All preaching/teaching of hate or how to further a life of crime should stopped by whoever to whoever if at all possible, no messing.

[Mamyalynne]

^ should be stopped.

[naomi24]

From andy-hughes, //give them evidence that the West really does hate Islam, and get them even more fired up for when they are released……. in their eyes they are being imprisoned by the infidel who hates Islam. //

That is dangerous talk. These aren’t children who are liable to sulk because they think someone doesn’t like them. Their only purpose in life is to pursue the advancement of Islam – and, as is evidenced by the plethora of willing ‘martyrs’, they will pursue that purpose at any cost. They couldn’t give a hoot what the west thinks of them. They are our enemies; they would rejoice in seeing any one of us, or all of us, dead, and whatever we do that isn’t going to change. The same mistake is made repeatedly by the naïvely trusting advocates of blind faith in the triumph of the better side of human nature – that of endowing Islamists with a western mentality that embraces both reason and compassion. Radical Islam embraces neither and there is no compromise – ever – and the sooner we, as a culture, acknowledge that reality the better. In the real world this sort of idealism is not only futile – it is positively self-destructive.