Religious Folk Eh?

[-Talbot-]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/leamington-spa-sikh-temple-gurdwara-occupeid-armed-men-warwickshire-police-a7236941.html

[Khandro]

I'm not a Sikh, but if my son told me he wanted to marry a fully practicing Muslim woman, I'd be reaching for my sword too. She is most probably a 'lapsed Muslim' but even so there would be enormous problems ahead - she would be an 'apostate' and subject to a so-called fatwa with her life in danger and that is why, I suspect, the Sikhs don't want one of theirs to get embroiled with this b8llsh8t.

[tamborine]

The Marriage is between a sikh & hindu. Sikhs consider themselves higher class than hindus. Its the caste system at play in UK :(

http://news.sky.com/story/sword-wielding-gang-storm-sikh-temple-in-leamington-spa-10574252

[trt]

## Yes they can TRT
https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives ##

I cant see where it says a Sikh can carry a knife in public Quiz?

[Mamyalynne]

In that link in the section

' Good reasons'

It means if you are challenged it is one reason you may proffer for carrying a knife.

[THEMOTLEY1]

The link in the OP states
[[It later emerged that the occupation appears to be a protest against a marriage between a Sikh and a Muslim due to take place at the temple]].

[trt]

Mamya, this is what Khandro wrote.

## Sikhs are always "armed" it's part of their religion and they have special dispensation to carry steel ##

I said, In the UK Khandro, doubt it very much???

So if I was Sikh, I can walk about with a religious sword/dagger, stuffed in my belt?????

[THEMOTLEY1]

https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
Scroll down to
Good reasons for carrying a knife or weapon
which includes
for example the kirpan some Sikhs carry

[agchristie]

As a bladed article, possession of a kirpan without valid reason in a public place would be illegal under section 139 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988.[17] However, there is a specific defence for a person to prove that he had it with him for "religious reasons".

[Mamyalynne]

I have no idea where it is worn/carried or how much of a 'good reason' as in the link it is - whether it should be allowed is a whole new debate.

Equally did the men entering the Temple simply have on them their Kirpans a usual or did they enter with the intent of using them as weapons to add to their protest over this marriage?

A tangled web.

[THEMOTLEY1]

http://www.sikhanswers.com/modern-youth-issues/legal-standing-on-sikhs-wearing-kirpan/
In the United Kingdom (Legal)
It is legal under the Criminal Justice Act 1988 (section 139) and Offensive Weapons Act 1996 (section 3 and 4) for a Sikh to carry a kirpan with a blade for religious reasons (other reasons allowed by the Act are cultural or work related reasons). The Criminal Justice Act 1988 safeguards the rights of the Sikhs to carry the Kirpan as it is deemed a necessary part of their religion.

[trt]

## A tangled web. ##

A TANGLED WEB, Yes indeed Mamya, and it should not be allowed to happen on our doorsteps, as it certainly wouldn't be allowed on theirs.

I am sick to death of theses *** religious fanatics bringing their problems to the UK, and if any of this incident gets to court, you can guarantee they will only get the usual slap on the wrist, as the courts will be afraid of being called racist.

[Togo]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kEZHMP-ei8

[trt]

Some of the lyrics are quite true Toga.

If I was younger, I certainly would be doing something, to help get the UK back to normal, but I wouldn't be carrying a dagger/kirpan in my belt, it would probably be a Rocket Launcher! :-)

[trt]

And I wonder if our Government would allow this ritual for babies here.

Knowing how scared they are of upsetting our fanatical religious friends from overseas, probably not!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G0C9uvLuQk

[Khandro]

https://nitawriter.wordpress.com/2009/08/24/misleading-reports-about-indians-throwing-their-babies/
Whereof we do not know, thereof we should not speak.

[vulcan42]

Your article suggests, although infrequently, it does happen. One incident is one too many.

[trt]

## Whereof we do not know, thereof we should not speak ##

But Khandro, we do know because we can see the so called rituals, and there's plenty more on YouTube, some more disturbing.

[Peter Pedant]

their bravery is undisputed

(duty to protect women) - saw a Sikh taking on an IRA supporter who was hassling an English girl ( in Dublin ) - we just couldnt believe our eyes or ears