So Why Not Vote Instead Of Whining About The Results?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37443659
It seems the young are very vocal about things but actually dragging their Aristotle down to vote is too much like hard work.

[youngmafbog]

Because it's much easier to moan than actually do something about it.

[Old_Geezer]

Maybe there isn't anyone that can be trusted to reflect their own views sufficiently well, and they realise that once elected they do their own thing anyway and so see no benefit. Persistent pressure groups achieve more change, even when, what the group wants, is not a good idea.

[Gromit]

No young people are whining?

That is just an analysis of voting paterns. It turns that just like most of the other recent General Elections, older people were more inclined to vote, possibly because they have more time on their hands.

The voting figure are neither surprising nor unexpected. But I repeat, no one is whining about them.

[douglas9401]

Not apathy as stated in the article but complete and utter stupidity.
The young as a herd know nothing and can do even less for themselves.
They might stand a chance if they ever get their eyes off whatever dross they're viewing on their phones but I doubt it.
I despair for the future, I really do.

[youngmafbog]

//possibly because they have more time on their hands.//

So if you really cannot be bothered to vote and post then you really cannot have much of an opinion then can you?

[Gromit]

The problem of voter apathy has long been recognised.

I repeat. I do not hear young people whining about the result.

The OP and some of the answers are just the usual daft generational attacks. Rather boring and pointless.

[cassa333]

I would say it is the vocal few that took their opinions from Russle Brand o voting that may be whinging.

It is the Corbynite style campaigners who forgot that voting is the way to make changes.

It is much easier to not vote, say you are disenfranchised and moan about your lot.

[ToraToraTora]

Gromit they've been ticking away like 9 bob watches over the brexit vote, I wonder how many did not vote?

[whiskeryron]

In order to get truer results at elections voting should be made compulsory with fines for those who will not bother or make the effort.

[Old_Geezer]

That would be a complete abuse of a person's right not to vote for someone they do not approve of as their representative. It has no place in a free society.

[ToraToraTora]

ron: cobblers

[Gromit]

The exit poll of young voters in the Referedum was done by SKY, which has since been acknowledged was totally wrong. It claimed only 36% of young people voted, when the actual figure was nearly twice that. In fact the young voter turnout was comparable to other age groups.

Voting figure in the EU referendum for registered voters:
18-25 = 64%
25-39 = 65%
40-54 = 66%
55-64 = 74%
65 + = 90%

So the judgement of apathy is based on a lie (or SKY's screwed up poll).

[New Judge]

“…older people were more inclined to vote, possibly because they have more time on their hands.”

Just how long does it take to cast a vote? You can even do it from the comfort of your own home if you can be bothered to arrange a postal vote. If voting in person polling stations are open for fifteen hours and they are located so that nobody has to travel too far.

In the run up to the referendum many younger people had not troubled to register to vote. This was so apparent that the deadline for registration had to be extended to accommodate their lack of organisation amid cries of “foul”. Registering to vote can be done online whilst they are busy walking along the street to their next engagement. Yet many, many of them left it until the deadline only to find that the relevant websites were busy. Quelle surprise!

“I repeat. I do not hear young people whining about the result.”

That may be true of General and Local Elections but there was (and indeed still is) considerable “whining” at the result of the referendum.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-25/young-brits-declare-brexit-result-not-in-my-name/7543316
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-eu-referendum-latest-protest-young-people-parliament-vote-a7101701.html

(To cite just two of many)

It is said (though they are only estimates) that 75% of young people who did bother to vote voted to remain but that up to 75% of those eligible to vote did not do so. The fact is that many young people have spent their early years being cosseted and having their every whim met on demand. They have no idea of meeting deadlines to do things or of having to do those things for themselves. Furthermore, many of them “have no interest in politics” but they have suddenly seen, with the referendum at least, that voting can be important. Their lack of interest has turned round to bite them and they are demanding a second crack. Lesson number 2: in democracy the majority rules, meaning you don't always get what you want. Lesson number 3: sometimes your lack of action leads to irrevocable results.

“In order to get truer results at elections voting should be made compulsory with fines for those who will not bother or make the effort.”

So long as there is a box for “none of the above”.

[New Judge]

Voting figure in the EU referendum for registered voters:
18-25 = 64%
25-39 = 65%
40-54 = 66%
55-64 = 74%
65 + = 90%

How are those figures anyy more accurate than those posted by Sky? Nobody knows the figures as they are not recorded.

[Gromit]

New Judge.

// In the run up to the referendum many younger people had not troubled to register to vote. This was so apparent that the deadline for registration had to be extended to accommodate their lack of organisation amid cries of “foul”. //

Wow, the referendum was only a few weeks ago and you have already forgotten (or are you just re-writing history). The deadline for registering to vote was extended because the website stopped working early. That mean't people who were within the deadline could not register. There is no evidence that the web traffic was all young people. As the turnout was high across the boatd, late registers probably came from ALL age groups.

[Khandro]

OG; //That would be a complete abuse of a person's right not to vote for someone they do not approve of as their representative. It has no place in a free society. //

You would always have the right to spoil your voting paper.

[jim360]

"Lesson number 2: in democracy the majority rules, meaning you don't always get what you want."

Strictly speaking, the plurality rules in our democracy. Still, it's true that democracies have to have a loser, but doesn't mean we can't moan about it.

[ludwig]

People should never be forced to vote.

Those that are stupid or disinterested enough to not bother voting aren't really fit to be included in the process anyway, so the system regulates itself quite nicely.

[ludwig]

People should never be forced to vote.

Those that are stupid or disinterested enough to not bother voting aren't really fit to be included in the process anyway, so the system regulates itself quite nicely.

[Old_Geezer]

"You would always have the right to spoil your voting paper."

In which case this obligation placed on citizens by the State would have no benefit, but simply force people to do something ludicrous that they have no wish to do.

This is the exact opposite of what the State exists for. It is there for the benefit of it's citizens, not to push them around (even if most politicians and folk in authority tend to forget what their function is and think they are there to control the public by whatever takes their whim).