Eu Orders British Press Not To Reveal When Terrorists Are Muslims

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/717627/free-speech-crackdown-EU-report-British-press-hate-crime-violence-terror

/// Blaming the press, ECRI Chair Christian Ahlund, said: “It is no coincidence that racist violence is on the rise in the UK at the same time as we see worrying examples of intolerance and hate speech in the newspapers, online and even among politicians.” ///

Blimey, has he not yet noticed the rise of racial violence etc, more so in other European countries?

But then it would seem that our press have already been 'got at' when they are reluctant to call it a terrorist attack, with no ISIS involvement, just putting the blame on the mental health of the individual.

[naomi24]

Gromit, we had a discussion here about the 'Norwegian' headline. I remember people questioning it.

[naomi24]

And similarly, the man who drove a lorry through all those people in the South of France was, initially, widely described as mentally ill. He wasn't. The press do attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of the public.

[fiction-factory]

I am sure the press did not make it up, naomi. They would have been given that steer by the police. The jihdists want publicity for their cause and want to be remembered as heroes- why give publicity to the cause until it is known to be right or the time is right to release the details. Sometimes it's better to keep your info close to your chest so as not to interfere with the enquiries that are being made.

[naomi24]

I’m sure they don’t make it up, and of course some things must be kept under wraps until the authorities have completed their initial investigations, but if stories are not corroborated they shouldn’t be reported as fact. I don’t agree that Jihadists want to be portrayed as heroes – at least not to anyone who isn’t of the same mind as them. They’re not trying to impress us. Our good opinion is not sought. They are well aware that any publicity they get in the western press is going to be, from our point of view, bad publicity – and they delight in it. Nevertheless, I don’t think that’s a reason to print inaccurate reports. The more bad publicity they get the less sympathy it engenders – and that can only be a good thing.

[fiction-factory]

I doubt anyone here thought I mean t terrorist murderers were heroes to us. Of course I meant to followers, the twisted and those who may be tempted to join their cause. So I disagree that bad publicity for them is necessarily a good thing . The likes of me and you and all reasonable people already know that there is a threat from jihadist type terrorists so don't need reminding; but there are some who will be attracted to the terrorist cause and those who will celebrate a victory and thereby encourage them to continue- so the publicity is not bad to them.

[jourdain2]

I'm just so thankful that we are getting out of the power of these people.

[naomi24]

fiction-factory, people who are attracted to the cause of fundamentalist Islamists don’t rely upon the western press to encourage them. However, dishonest reporting does encourage complacency in the rest of us - and in many instances it works!

[fiction-factory]

Okay , well just have to beg to differ on this one! I've no idea why you think we are any more or any less complacent about the threat just because the authorities don't always immediately say "we think it was IS terrorists what done it". Whether the threat is from mentally ill IS terrorist, other mentally ill people (there was a non Muslim mentally ill woman a while ago who went on a stabbing spree) or just some non-Muslim killer/attacker who acted for some other reason) the incident is still reported so we know there is a risk. Okay if someone think most terrorists are muslims so most muslims may be terrorists so let's attack all aspects of Islam and drive the religion out, I could see why they might see a cover up conspiracy- but those people are already convinced that they don't want Muslims here so the vagaries of police/press reporting wouldn't make much difference. The info always comes out in time-perhaps at the right time.

[naomi24]

fiction-factory , Going by the responses here to inaccurate reports that mentally ill individuals are responsible, I’d say it encourages complacency. They usually amount to ‘Oh well, that’s okay then – it wasn’t a terrorist attack’, with no further thought given. The fact is that over 25% of Muslims in this country admit to harbouring terrorist sympathies – and that’s just those who have declared it - equating to something close to 1 million people. That’s a hell of a lot of sympathy. Why would anyone not be concerned – and why would anyone want them here? You tell me.

[anotheoldgit]

fiction-factory

/// The likes of me and you ///

Eh! steady on f-f such words are considered rude on this site.

[Gromit]

// Going by the responses here to inaccurate reports that mentally ill individuals are responsible, //
The reports are not inaccurate.

// The fact is that over 25% of Muslims in this country admit to harbouring terrorist sympathies //

That is not a fact, and "do you have terrorist sympathies?" was never the question.

[naomi24]

Gromit, this is precisely what I meant by ‘complacency’ – but you can call it denial if you like. That’s also fitting. The reports are not inaccurate. The man who killed the people in Nice was initially described in the media as ‘mentally ill’ – and according to a BBC poll it is a fact that over 25% of Muslims here harbour terrorist sympathies.

27% of British Muslims say they have some sympathy for the motives behind the attacks on Charlie Hebdo in Paris.

24% say that violence towards those who publish images of the prophet can be justified.

11% feel sympathetic towards people who want to fight against western interests

45% say that Muslim clerics preaching that violence against the west can be justified are not out of touch with mainstream Muslim opinion.

Furthermore, NOP research concludes that 25% of British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified, and an ICM poll published by the Telegraph found that 40% of Muslims want Sharia Law in the UK.

Take a look at this list. The results of polls worldwide are truly staggering.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx

People who come into this country don’t abandon their philosophy at our borders - and like all parents they impart their beliefs to their children. In fact in many instances the figures are alarmingly higher among the young. As the link says, if only 1% of Muslims worldwide sympathise with terrorists, that equates to 15 million people. Denial might make you feel better - but it doesn’t change it.

[andy-hughes]

Gromit - I am sure that you, like me, could spend hours of time compiling statistics, but not being a train spotter, I am sure that also like me you have far better things to do with your time - like having a life.

[naomi24]

^Another one in denial.

[Gromit]

Naomi,
I knew exactly what poll you were misquoting.
Thank you for confirming that 25% did not say they they harboured terrorist sympathies. They had sympathy with the motives.

I have sympathy with those who voted Brexit because of immigration. But that does not mean I support Brexit.

[naomi24]

Nice try, Gromit, but it doesn't work.

[andy-hughes]

Don't worry Gromit - I think it works just fine.

[naomi24]

^Haaaa!

[fiction-factory]

>and why would anyone want them here? You tell me.

I'm not sure who you mean by them. All Muslims here? Or 'just' those who support terror - if there is a directory of them?

[naomi24]

fiction-factory , no, there isn’t a directory – and that’s the problem. Neither you, nor I, nor anyone else knows with whom we’re rubbing shoulders on a daily basis. That’s why the murderers who climbed, unhindered, aboard planes on 9/11 and aboard London public transport on 7/7 were free to kill so many. The western world has a serious problem that emanates from the Muslim community and, unless we acknowledge that, the problem will increase. Denying it is tantamount to encouraging it. Islamists are laughing at western apologists for the naïve fools they are.