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Integration, Do They Mean Segregation?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.“One suggestion is the 'bussing' in of white children into schools with high ethnic populations, or vice-versa.”
So basically, you’ll like who we tell you to like.
Successive governments have encouraged incoming minorities to conduct themselves in precisely the same manner as they did in the places they left. They did so and their descendants naturally do the same. It was not incumbent upon the population already here to embrace Islam, Sikhism, and Sharia Law. The responsibility to “integrate” was squarely at the door of the incomers. But government did not see it like that. Incredible as it may seem, white British people were not over keen on adapting to the incomers’ lifestyles and similarly they were not too keen on Western culture and habits.
Places like London and other major cities are large enough to accommodate separate “ghettos”. Its central area gives the impression that everybody jogs along just fine and it is the fine cultural melting pot that Lumel describes. Anybody living there knows that there are parts of it where they do not venture because they are “not welcome”. Take a trip through Newham or Tower Hamlets on a Friday afternoon. Have a stroll down the Barking Road in East Ham after Friday prayers have chucked out and see how beautiful is the “melting hot pot of different religions,colours,cultures, languages”.
Smaller towns fare less well. Places like Rotherham do not have the luxury of London’s size and segregation is rife. Some of the larger towns and cities also have problems. Walk the length of Cowley Road in Oxford and you’ll be hard pressed to find a shop run by white English people.
The damage is done and if the government believes it can reverse the irreversible by bussing schoolchildren all over the place its politicians display a remarkable degree of naivety. Large amounts of the UK’s population are segregated and it will only get worse. It is a fact that various racial groups do not like each other. It is not restricted to white and non-white people. Africans don’t like those from the Caribbean, Indians don’t like those from Pakistan, and Sunnis don’t like Shiites. The list is endless. The various groups tend to stick together and nothing the government does, short of compulsorily relocating tens of thousands of people will alter that.
So basically, you’ll like who we tell you to like.
Successive governments have encouraged incoming minorities to conduct themselves in precisely the same manner as they did in the places they left. They did so and their descendants naturally do the same. It was not incumbent upon the population already here to embrace Islam, Sikhism, and Sharia Law. The responsibility to “integrate” was squarely at the door of the incomers. But government did not see it like that. Incredible as it may seem, white British people were not over keen on adapting to the incomers’ lifestyles and similarly they were not too keen on Western culture and habits.
Places like London and other major cities are large enough to accommodate separate “ghettos”. Its central area gives the impression that everybody jogs along just fine and it is the fine cultural melting pot that Lumel describes. Anybody living there knows that there are parts of it where they do not venture because they are “not welcome”. Take a trip through Newham or Tower Hamlets on a Friday afternoon. Have a stroll down the Barking Road in East Ham after Friday prayers have chucked out and see how beautiful is the “melting hot pot of different religions,colours,cultures, languages”.
Smaller towns fare less well. Places like Rotherham do not have the luxury of London’s size and segregation is rife. Some of the larger towns and cities also have problems. Walk the length of Cowley Road in Oxford and you’ll be hard pressed to find a shop run by white English people.
The damage is done and if the government believes it can reverse the irreversible by bussing schoolchildren all over the place its politicians display a remarkable degree of naivety. Large amounts of the UK’s population are segregated and it will only get worse. It is a fact that various racial groups do not like each other. It is not restricted to white and non-white people. Africans don’t like those from the Caribbean, Indians don’t like those from Pakistan, and Sunnis don’t like Shiites. The list is endless. The various groups tend to stick together and nothing the government does, short of compulsorily relocating tens of thousands of people will alter that.
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Are you talking about the predominance of darker skinned people, naomi, or maybe the clothes people wear, the state of the buildings or the amount of litter or something else?"
I think naomi and I are talking about the same thing. But in case not, I am talking about the preponderance of followers of Islam. When the multitudinous mosques chuck out in mid-afternoon on Friday, that particular part of London is an extremely unpleasant place to be unless you have attended one of the mosques. Before suggesting this is not so readers should give it a try. I’ve had to once or twice and it ain’t nice.
I think naomi and I are talking about the same thing. But in case not, I am talking about the preponderance of followers of Islam. When the multitudinous mosques chuck out in mid-afternoon on Friday, that particular part of London is an extremely unpleasant place to be unless you have attended one of the mosques. Before suggesting this is not so readers should give it a try. I’ve had to once or twice and it ain’t nice.
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Unpleasant place to be? I've been to the places mentioned and was in Bethnal Green last Friday and when the Mosque was finished all I seen were happy people meeting and greeting,chatting before dispersing. In the evening some of Londons best watering holes and Curry Restaurants opened and we had a great social evening finishing with some great Asian food. All smiles around, happy people and no trouble,litter or any negatives.
When were you who belittle East London last there, do you live there or do you just drive through occasionally making notes on litter, the amount of brown faces to white and other little things that appear to annoy you?
When were you who belittle East London last there, do you live there or do you just drive through occasionally making notes on litter, the amount of brown faces to white and other little things that appear to annoy you?
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factor-fiction, Why are you happy with whole areas of your country becoming unrecognisable? In fact why are any of you happy with that?
Mikey, //its the brown faces that are the problem for some people on here.//
Your ignorance is showing again,. Read my post at 18:16.
Lunol, //When were you who belittle East London last there//
Last week. I was born there and I'm often there.
Mikey, //its the brown faces that are the problem for some people on here.//
Your ignorance is showing again,. Read my post at 18:16.
Lunol, //When were you who belittle East London last there//
Last week. I was born there and I'm often there.
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