Enemies Of The People? I'd Say So.

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37882082
Don't these pro EU Liberal judges realise what they have done? Perhaps if they came down out of their ivory towers occasionally and visited their country they'd realise the fury they have caused.

[ichkeria]

There had actually been quite a lot of talk of going through parliament beforehand. Then the "wealthy lawyer" put her own money where her mouth was and made a legal challenge.
(Psst: she's originally from Guyana, of all places)

[mikey4444]

"she's originally from Guyana, of all places"....my God...isn't that where a lot of foreigners live ?

The indignity of it all !

[naomi24]

Jim, I’m not trying to subvert anything. The people who brought this before the courts are doing that. Pretty much convinced of a ‘Remain’ result, Parliament elected, in not insubstantial numbers, in favour of offering the public a referendum. However, the result was not as they expected. How convenient it would have been for them to say, “See how fair we are – we’ve given the electorate an opportunity to speak, and they’ve given us confirmation that they would like to remain in the EU. Bye bye, Nigel, you’ve been a thorn in our side for years but the people have spoken - no argument there - so now you’re well and truly stuffed”. Desperate times call for desperate measures – and this lofty slinging around of ‘the law’ and ‘the result of the referendum was only advisory’ is just that - desperate. The people who are supporting this are making a farce of democracy and they’re making fools of the majority of the people who voted. This is not morally justified and if those who refuse to accept the result of the referendum get their way, then the whole thing was a completely pointless exercise - and the country is stuffed too.

[mikey4444]

Jim...another person it would seem, that doesn't understand why the Court acted as it did.

You can take a horse to water Jim........!

[ToraToraTora]

bang on naomi,BA, it's like playing marbles then announcing, oh we weren't playing keepsies, they lost now they want their marbles back.

[naomi24]

Mikey, I know exactly why the court acted as it did - and I know exactly why those who brought it before the courts acted as they did - which is the far more pertinent factor.

[naomi24]

Thanks TTT. This disingenuous claptrap makes me sick.

[jim360]

It's not "the law", though, it's the law. Putting it in quotation marks betrays either a basic misunderstanding of the decision or a contempt for it that is utterly shocking.

And, again, let me remind you: of the many people who brought this decision to the house, one of them was a Brexit supporter. Good luck telling him that this result is a betrayal of the decision he made. He knows it is not.

[THECORBYLOON]

Why did the court act the way it did?

[mikey4444]

This debate is now retreating into childish nonsense, so I am leaving now !

[naomi24]

Jim, if the people who brought this before the courts had any respect at all for democracy, they would have accepted the result of the referendum, as the government has, and this ridiculous situation would have been avoided. There is no moral justification in this whatsoever.

[naomi24]

Mikey, what childish nonsense? I see none. I see a vigorous discussion.

[ToraToraTora]

they are just trying to get their marbles back. Sounds to me like the law is open to interpretation either way so it's not a cast iron fact that has been decided merely an opinion.

[jim360]

I'll allow David Greene, then, to speak for me:

"Today's judgement is a victory for everyone who believes in the supremacy of parliamentary democracy... I've never challenged the result of the referendum. In fact, I voted for Brexit, for the sole reason that I wanted power to be returned from Europe to the British Parliament. But I did not think it was right for the government to just bypass Parliament, and try to take away my legal rights without consulting Parliament."

[fiction-factory]

I see some frustrated people trying to blame judges for interpreting the law (probably correctly) when I am sure those same people would be cheering if judges had ruled some other attempts by, say, a Corbyn government, to implement something without the approval of parliament. The blame lies elsewhere. I'm leaving the thread too as the frustration seems to be stopping people seeing things clearly.

[ToraToraTora]

that's his opinion jim. I believe the authority given to the government by the referendum is mandate enough for them to act on our behalf.

[THECORBYLOON]

Could the moral justification for the court case be that the majority of the electorate did not vote for Brexit?

[naomi24]

Jim, No one parliamentarian's ‘legal’ rights should override the wishes of the majority of the electorate. He was content to accept the result of a democratic vote when his constituents put him where he is - and he should remember that.

[ichkeria]

Hasn't one of the top Leave campaigners welcomed the ruling and basically told his own side to calm down?

[jim360]

This is about the process, not the result. No-one is challenging the result. What is challenged is the implementation of it.