It Was All The F B I's Fault!

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37963965
Right oh Hillary!

[Quizmonster]

What Mrs Clinton actually said - if you read your own link-material, TTT - was (quote) ""There are lots of reasons why an election like this is not successful."
No one with an ounce of common sense can surely imagine that the interventions by the Director of the FBI were without effect.

[cassa333]

Apparently a lot more of voters voted for Trump while the second 'investigation' was going on and that may have had a detrimentally effect on her voter numbers.

But as is always the case it isn't usually any one thing but a series of things.

[Jackdaw33]

Must be the first time the FBI has taken someone out without recourse to firearms.

[mushroom25]

not so jackdaw - Al Capone was "taken out" by being prosecuted and convicted for tax offences. He got 11 years.

[jim360]

It's never so simple as all that. But Mark Comey's intervention had a significant and noticeable effect. Even if you don't like Hillary much, then it still mattered because, you might say, it reminded voters who might have been wavering that Clinton had her own flaws.

What I found the most revealing, and it sadly rings true, with the caption to the video: "Trump's supporters saw Clinton's experience and qualifications as huge negatives". When did we get to that point, that people can legitimately think that the better-qualified you are for a job, the worse you are suited to it?!

[Togo]

//When did we get to that point, that people can legitimately think that the better-qualified you are for a job, the worse you are suited to it?! //

I thought that had been left wing recruitment policy for years jim.

[jim360]

Hahahahahahahahah no

[Togo]

:))

[mushroom25]

Jim, the concept was explored years ago by Douglas Adams:-

It is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it... anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.

in "the restaurant at the end of the universe", the ruler of the universe is found to be an old man who lives in a shack on a remote beach. he doesn't want the job and tries to avoid doing it. thus making him the best candidate.

[jim360]

Surely that would rule out Mr. "I am the greatest". Trump, too. Apparently not :/

[Khandro]

I doubt that all the mud-slinging made much difference, they, (people who don't even know the meaning of the word) tried to pin 'misogyny' on Donald and it didn't stick.
Most people knew for whom they were going to vote, way back.

[ToraToraTora]

"When did we get to that point, that people can legitimately think that the better-qualified you are for a job, the worse you are suited to it?! " - I think this was really a vote against established "we know best" politics. The people are just sick to the back teeth of being told what to think by career politicians. They took the chance to give the system the finger. Trump appealed precisely because he ticked all the BOTD boxes and wasn't shamed face about it. Clinton represents centuries of Dynastic succession in politics and the people took their chance to kick all that up the jaxy.

[douglas9401]

If only they'd done it with George H W Bush's boy we might live in a slightly better world.
Or does it only apply to those of a peace porridge eating lentil knitting persuasion? :)

[mibn2cweus]

The fact is, the the impact of Comey’s unconstitutional intervention may (amongst other things) well have cost Hillary the election. We may never know.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-e-jackson-jr/the-impact-of-the-comey-u_b_12931912.html

[dieseldick]

it was no ones fault but her own and that of the obama admin over last 8 years.

people have woken up, world is waking up.

end of

[mibn2cweus]

Hillary's loss doesn't change the fact that the system was 'rigged'.

[dieseldick]

" Hillary's loss doesn't change the fact that the system was 'rigged'. "

of course it was by the democrats, just need look back at the media & polls

[jim360]

I'm sure there are plenty of reasons Clinton lost, and some of them are doubtless to do with her. I think it's a sad thing on principle that the US has seen 20 out of the last 28 years being led by a Bush or a Clinton (and there was a time when this election looked like it could be Clinton v. Bush again!); even now, people are talking (perhaps not altogether seriously) about Michelle Obama running in 2020, which would fit into the same sort of pattern.

It's just the way that caption was phrased. To hold experience against someone if it's bad is one thing; to hold it against someone just as a matter of course is quite another. And it does seems like we are rather heading that way.

[joggerjayne]

If the Republicans had endorsed Marco Rubio, or Ben Carson, they would have beaten Hillary C with a landslide.

And if the Dmocrats had endorsed Bernie Sanders, he would have beaten Donald T with a landslide.

But both parties rejected their best candidates.

Hillary shouldn't whinge about little speculative theories, because ...

... she should not have been running in the first place.