"amendment Proof" A50 Bill...lets' Hope So.

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37986591
Labour have already said it won't block brexit, the Tories will fall into line so will this now stop all this sillyness and get on with implementing the democratic will of the majority?

[jim360]

Well, hope I get credit for trying anyway :/

[fiction-factory]

>I think it was incumbent upon each voter top do the research. 'Caveat suffragium' if you like.

Good point. The leavers may have thought of the potential difficulties and factored them in so shouldn't be too surprised at the slow progress and stunbling blocks and maybe just need to let those charged with delivering Brexit find a way through

[Zacs-Master]

and, ff, the potential difficulties may have converted a few to 'remain'. But sadly, few did the research, preferring to believe in the 'Jam tomorrow' promises of equally ignorant politicians.

[fiction-factory]

At risk of promoting more SGB posts i switched from being just on one side of the fence then the other to a firm Remain because I felt that extricating ourselves and putting something else in place may take 5-10 years. Hopefully it will now take less than that and in 18 months from now we will wonder what all the fuss and doubts were about, but I am not totally confident.

[naomi24]

Zacs-Master, will you please stop saying that those who voted ‘Leave’ are ignorant. They're not. I can’t say people bargained for the obstructive opposition the result has engendered, but I don’t believe many of us thought the path to independence from the EU would be simple or that we would experience no effects. If the government is allowed, by the dissenters, to do what it promised to do, eventually the 'Jam' will come.

[New Judge]

"I can’t say people bargained for the obstructive opposition the result has engendered..."

No they probably did not. But believing that something you want might be difficult to achieve should not have an influence on the way you voted. I know they did so without ensuring the legalities were ironed out but the electorate was told that their decision would be implemented by the government. They should not have to think through the potential difficulties in carrying out that pledge. My decision was made on what I wanted to see happen, not on how difficult or easy my choice would be. It was obviously going to be far easier to remain than to leave and so a clear "Remain" vote should have followed if that was a major consideration, so it clearly wasn't.

[naomi24]

//My decision was made on what I wanted to see happen, not on how difficult or easy my choice would be. //

Me too.

[fiction-factory]

It depends whether one was making a decision on what was felt to be best for the short term (next 5 years or so with all the potential distraction/upheaval), the medium term (next 5-15 years) or the longer term for future generations. Some voted for what was best for them and some for future generations. People can factor in all sorts of things and it whatever choice they made for whatever reason is just as valid as the next person's vote

[Zacs-Master]

I would have thought those who knew we were in for a rough time would have an 'ok this is the rough time I anticipated' attitude, 'I'll just weather the storm cos I know it'll be alright in the end', but no. They somehow feel they have to shout down those who speak against them. I can only conclude it's much rougher than they thought.

[jourdain2]

I would like to echo NJ and Naomi at 18.41. Who said it would be easy or painless? But it will be so well-worth-it to get our country back and under our control.

[jourdain2]

^^^ No, ZM, no rougher than expected. In fact, so far so good.

[Zacs-Master]

Then why all the crowing? If your so confident, just sit back and enjoy the ride. No?

[jourdain2]

^^ ZM If you look at my posts, I don't think I have been 'crowing'. A bit of jubilation at the start (which I think is forgivable) otherwise I have always been calmly positive (if worried by negativism). If I have forgotten a post made in haste I apologise in advance.

[Zacs-Master]

I wouldn't call predicting a third civil war calmly positive.