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Tony Blair Says Britain's Eu Exit Can Be Stopped
//Mr Blair, speaking to the New Statesman, said the single market would be the key issue in the negotiations, and that securing maximum access would mean accepting fewer restrictions on immigration, paying into the EU budget and accepting the jurisdiction of European judges.//
Precisely the reasons that Leavers voted ‘Leave’! Tony Blair penchant for holding the views of the electorate in contempt remains – and by all accounts he’s on his way back on to the British political scene. Will you welcome him?
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Precisely the reasons that Leavers voted ‘Leave’! Tony Blair penchant for holding the views of the electorate in contempt remains – and by all accounts he’s on his way back on to the British political scene. Will you welcome him?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Opposition is healthy, I don’t happen to agree with him but as contentious as they may be he is entitled to express his opinions just as many abers do. My problem with holding another referendum is you won’t get the best deal as all the EU has to do is ensure it’s a tough enough deal to persuade the electorate to vote to remain
John Major has also come out in support of another Referendum:
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Whether or not there's a "technical" case for it, and whether or not the government's behaviour following the Referendum (in particular its attitude toward the Supreme Court) has been entirely upstanding is irrelevant to the central issue here: If we don't implement Brexit, then this country will face a political crisis the likes of which it has never seen.
As will come as no surprise, I'm of the view that staying in the EU is in the country's best economic interests, but now that the referendum has happened the cost of staying in is too high. Doing so would cost our country a fundamental faith in its governing institutions which would take decades if it were even possible to heal. For all the economic turmoil and devastation I think Brexit will cause, the alternative at this stage is far far worse for society.
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Whether or not there's a "technical" case for it, and whether or not the government's behaviour following the Referendum (in particular its attitude toward the Supreme Court) has been entirely upstanding is irrelevant to the central issue here: If we don't implement Brexit, then this country will face a political crisis the likes of which it has never seen.
As will come as no surprise, I'm of the view that staying in the EU is in the country's best economic interests, but now that the referendum has happened the cost of staying in is too high. Doing so would cost our country a fundamental faith in its governing institutions which would take decades if it were even possible to heal. For all the economic turmoil and devastation I think Brexit will cause, the alternative at this stage is far far worse for society.
Kromo - not matter how many politicos stand on their hind legs and spout about 'another referendum' or the endless doom and gloom that Brexit is going to bring, it is going to happen as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow, which makes their posturing increasingly irrelevant.
In the same way that men with sandwich boards who patrol Britain's high street with sandwich boards saying 'The End Is Nigh' are seen and heard, but utterly ignored, the politicians who persist in peddling this anti-Brexit nonsense view lose credibility and listeners on a daily basis.
For the reasons you have outlined, Brexit will go ahead because it is the will of the people, and no government is ever going to gainsay that.
In the same way that men with sandwich boards who patrol Britain's high street with sandwich boards saying 'The End Is Nigh' are seen and heard, but utterly ignored, the politicians who persist in peddling this anti-Brexit nonsense view lose credibility and listeners on a daily basis.
For the reasons you have outlined, Brexit will go ahead because it is the will of the people, and no government is ever going to gainsay that.
'The tyranny of the majority' - is one of the better oxymorons voiced since Brexit.
It is of course preferable to the tyranny of the minority, which is Mr Major and similar thinkers.
What is it with these past-their-sell-by-date politicians that makes them think that their out-of-touch opinions are of interest to anyone except people like them who are still living in the past?
It is of course preferable to the tyranny of the minority, which is Mr Major and similar thinkers.
What is it with these past-their-sell-by-date politicians that makes them think that their out-of-touch opinions are of interest to anyone except people like them who are still living in the past?
Tyranny of the majority is not a bankrupt concept. In fact avoiding it is the foundation of Liberal thought (it comes from J.S. Mill).
I'm not really sure it applies in this case though. You can legitimately worry about "tyranny of the majority" if, for example, a majority of the population were to decide that they don't want gay people to have the same rights as everyone else, or decide that they are going to ban mosques. It' a worthwhile thing to be worried about.
The difference in this case, though, is that Brexit is not an issue that is sectional. It doesn't seriously affect anyone's freedoms, and it doesn't seriously affect basic human rights, which are areas where majority-rule becomes dangerous. It's about the destiny of the country and how our political institutions work.
I'm not really sure it applies in this case though. You can legitimately worry about "tyranny of the majority" if, for example, a majority of the population were to decide that they don't want gay people to have the same rights as everyone else, or decide that they are going to ban mosques. It' a worthwhile thing to be worried about.
The difference in this case, though, is that Brexit is not an issue that is sectional. It doesn't seriously affect anyone's freedoms, and it doesn't seriously affect basic human rights, which are areas where majority-rule becomes dangerous. It's about the destiny of the country and how our political institutions work.
What is it with these past-their-sell-by-date politicians that makes them think that their out-of-touch opinions are of interest to anyone except people like them who are still living in the past
perhaps the fact that - unlike the armchair heroes of AB - they have actually had experience running a country?
perhaps the fact that - unlike the armchair heroes of AB - they have actually had experience running a country?
You have conveniently forgotten the lies Blair peddled. I too foolishly believed him and supported some of his actions. With hindsight and more real knowledge I know now that I made a big mistake. As did many others.
//perhaps the fact that - unlike the armchair heroes of AB - they have actually had experience running a country?//
Yeah, into the ground in one case.
//perhaps the fact that - unlike the armchair heroes of AB - they have actually had experience running a country?//
Yeah, into the ground in one case.
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