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New Probe Launched Into All 302 Killings By British Servicemen In Northern Ireland.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4011758/Probe-launched-302-killings-British-troops-Northern-Ireland.html
We had a very interesting post earlier regarding the case of Royal Marine Sergeant Blackman and now we read of yet another witch hunt against members of our armed forces.
When will this type of thing stop, how far are they prepared to go back, will some 90 year olds be charged for offences against Nazi concentration guards?
We had a very interesting post earlier regarding the case of Royal Marine Sergeant Blackman and now we read of yet another witch hunt against members of our armed forces.
When will this type of thing stop, how far are they prepared to go back, will some 90 year olds be charged for offences against Nazi concentration guards?
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//When will this type of thing stop//
It will stop aog when it has been established once and for all that our military can be despatched to areas of violent conduct, where it is perfectly in order for them to be attacked, but under no circumstances are they allowed to fire back without a debate in parliament and a panel of judges to consider the decision first. Any who are killed will expected to pay for their own funerals and be liable for the repair of their uniforms before returning them to the MOD.
It will stop aog when it has been established once and for all that our military can be despatched to areas of violent conduct, where it is perfectly in order for them to be attacked, but under no circumstances are they allowed to fire back without a debate in parliament and a panel of judges to consider the decision first. Any who are killed will expected to pay for their own funerals and be liable for the repair of their uniforms before returning them to the MOD.
My serious worry is that this enquiry is not going to be able to reach any meaningful conclusions because of the passage of time, and the inevitable loss of any reliable evidence and testimony.
This could potentially roll on for years, costing millions, and causing untold grief and heartache to innocent people, only for the end result to be that nothing has actually changed.
I am all in favour of justice being served, but if that means injustice to innocent people on the way to justice being failed, then it needs to be stopped before it begins.
This could potentially roll on for years, costing millions, and causing untold grief and heartache to innocent people, only for the end result to be that nothing has actually changed.
I am all in favour of justice being served, but if that means injustice to innocent people on the way to justice being failed, then it needs to be stopped before it begins.
> The 238 'fatal incidents', which involved the deaths of 302 people, are being investigated by the newly-created Legacy Investigations Branch of the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI).
How is that Legacy Investigations Branch funded? Presumably they're not getting enough from the taxpayer, otherwise why are they limiting their investigations to only the killings ... why not go the whole hog and investigate every single injury suffered by the poor things?
How is that Legacy Investigations Branch funded? Presumably they're not getting enough from the taxpayer, otherwise why are they limiting their investigations to only the killings ... why not go the whole hog and investigate every single injury suffered by the poor things?
///There are investigations into paramilitary killing in N Ireland
They just don't make the headlines. One reason for that is that often there are few leads.///
I'm more interested in the 'command-chain' and the orders given......and naming those responsible for the Mainland bombings (ordering and carrying out) might be a welcome start.
They just don't make the headlines. One reason for that is that often there are few leads.///
I'm more interested in the 'command-chain' and the orders given......and naming those responsible for the Mainland bombings (ordering and carrying out) might be a welcome start.
Oh, definitely did please me. Added an extra special white creamy material to my Tibetan pease porridge when I read the news...
But seriously. I don't see why it's so offensive to want to ensure that British soldiers are held to account, where appropriate. It's entirely compatible with admiring them for the work that they overwhelmingly do -- and I do, no doubt about that. For this particular case, or set of cases, I'm slightly surprised that they are being brought up again. Bloody Sunday aside, I had thought that the Good Friday Agreement was, in part, a closing of the book on this.
But seriously. I don't see why it's so offensive to want to ensure that British soldiers are held to account, where appropriate. It's entirely compatible with admiring them for the work that they overwhelmingly do -- and I do, no doubt about that. For this particular case, or set of cases, I'm slightly surprised that they are being brought up again. Bloody Sunday aside, I had thought that the Good Friday Agreement was, in part, a closing of the book on this.
jim360 - //But seriously. I don't see why it's so offensive to want to ensure that British soldiers are held to account, where appropriate. //
Nor do I, I have no problem with the concept, it's the realisation that is going to cause the issues, and the very probable lack of any meaningful conclusions which will not be seen as being worth the time, trouble, anguish, and money and time taken not to get anywhere.
Nor do I, I have no problem with the concept, it's the realisation that is going to cause the issues, and the very probable lack of any meaningful conclusions which will not be seen as being worth the time, trouble, anguish, and money and time taken not to get anywhere.
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