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Sqad | 09:38 Wed 14th Dec 2016 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4028108/I-don-t-want-sit-screaming-baby-Mother-carrying-infant-denied-class-seat-passengers-angry-hasn-t-paid-right.html

Who does she think she is? Having a baby is not a modern innovation it has been going on for centuries.
If I had bought a first class ticket I would not have been best please to sit next to a woman with a screaming baby even if she HAD bought a first class ticket and would have been infuriated to learn that she HADN'T purchased the appropriate ticket.

It was quite correct that she should have been......evicted.
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A-H See my post at 10.45.
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Andy........haven't you ever been travelling on public transport and thought " God no, I hope he/she isn't coming to sit next to me?"

I have.....many times.
A mum carrying a quiet and well behaved baby is told by that miserable old woman to respect her elders and betters........BETTERS!!!

The nicely spoken gentleman who gave the mum his seat.....now that is my idea of a gentleman.....x
Sqad - //Andy........haven't you ever been travelling on public transport and thought " God no, I hope he/she isn't coming to sit next to me?"

I have.....many times. //

No - I don't take a huge amount of notice of my fellow passengers - I am not possessed of such fabulousness that anyone else is not worthy to breathe my air, or occupy the same small area of the planet as me.

I do however spend my entire journey checking people's tickets on trains and buses and making a note of where they got on and off.

Should I find someone in a seat they have not paid for, or going past a stop where they should have got off the bus or train, then I consider it my civic duty to follow them and beat them until blood runs out of their ears!
Isn't it funny how people bracket the phrase 'elders' and 'betters' together - the assumed accolade of superiority is apparently accorded simply by living longer than the person you are looking down on.

Er, except it isn't!!!
//And just how does that give her any sort of special status in the Real World?//

Baldric...My comment was in reply to Sqad regarding what she's wearing!!!
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\\\\\Isn't it funny how people bracket the phrase 'elders' and 'betters' together - the assumed accolade of superiority is apparently accorded simply by living longer than the person you are looking down on. \\\

"people?"...SOME people Andy....some people.
Mikey, //Andy...I wasn't aware that all the second seats on that train were already taken. //

Neither is he.
WELL I KNOW MY PLACE !! lol
I haven't been on the Paris metro for years, but there used to be prioritised seats for mothers with babies and “Les mutilés de la guerre.” Whether a seat was ever contested between the two classes I often wondered, I guess the mother would get it by gallantry though.
Naomi - //Mikey, //Andy...I wasn't aware that all the second seats on that train were already taken. //

Neither is he. //

I appear not to be making my point clear -

If this lady and I were the only two people on the entire train and she came and sat next to me, I would not for one second consider if she had paid the same fare as me - because I have far more important things to think about.

I hope that explains things.
Khandro - // ... I guess the mother would get it by gallantry though. //

Something wrong with your guesser then!

This is 2016 - 'gallantry' is a commodity in seriously short supply, in either gender, or in any country - just read this thread for evidence!!!
Mostly we learn by example as we're growing up.

Amazing that folk can criticise the behaviour of our young people yet applaud the actions of this rude and uncaring old lady.
Well said, Gness...
andy-hughes, you’re making your point clear – that you are morally superior to we ‘snobs' - and you're far busier too - not that that has anything to do with my post you quoted.
Lots of things going straight over the heads of many posters ...


Is everyone posting from the annual ABers Christmas get-together booze up? (where was my invite?) :0(
Indeed gness, and what some on here, if they are parents, are teaching their children is a nasty small-minded jealousy and the belief that everyone is out to get something over on you, and you should make a fuss if you ever encounter it.

I haven't raised my children like that, I am willing to bet that if you have children - you haven't either.
there does seem to be a widespread assumption here that the mother didn't have a first-class ticket. I wonder why that is? There seems to be absolute zero evidence for it.
Talbot, I think the discussion has moved on.

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