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Time To Start Running Prisons Like Prisons?
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how are they proposing to reduce prison population? Is it time end the Butlins experiment and turn jails into places that no one wants to return to? We should also consider outsourcing prisons for sentences over 6 months.
how are they proposing to reduce prison population? Is it time end the Butlins experiment and turn jails into places that no one wants to return to? We should also consider outsourcing prisons for sentences over 6 months.
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as someone who spent most of my earlier life in many prisons in uk /scotland and also hmp maze . i think prisonsers should let out more, more excercise . if you keep a man in a cell 23 hrs a day what do you expect, good prisoners deserve better treatment, discruptive ones should be very harshly punished ,maybe removed and put into some kind of a supermax . then its...
07:16 Fri 23rd Dec 2016
I'm a great believer in the "three strikes and you're out (or do I mean permanently in)" principle. If you're in prison for a third offence it implies to me that you've no intention of "going straight". Whilst it's expensive to keep people in prison it must be cheaper overall than to keep catching them, trying them and locking them up again.
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^ Yes Argos catalogs are available in prisons BUT the cash to pay for anything in them ( if it is on the 'allowed' list) has to be saved from the weekly 'pay' given to prisoners. There is NO cash, only credit on the prisoners 'canteen' account. This credit can be used for tobacco, sweets phone cards etc but also can be saved to buy things off Argos.
It is an incentive to behave well as those who behave well are upgraded to 'enhanced' status and get a higher weekly allowance.
It is an incentive to behave well as those who behave well are upgraded to 'enhanced' status and get a higher weekly allowance.
As always the insurmountable problem with your idea is the lack of staff, prison staff are under immense pressure and there is a 30% staff shortage already that is getting worse by the day!
You can't have actually talked to prisoners as I have, when I worked in a Prison education department. NO offender ever assumes that they will go to jail , they assume they will get away with it.
The death sentence DOES NOT deter murder! it is the same with prisons.
I have said many times that 75% of ALL those sent to jail even for a very short sentence NEVER work again. So in the large majority of cases prison affects you for the rest of your life!
You can't have actually talked to prisoners as I have, when I worked in a Prison education department. NO offender ever assumes that they will go to jail , they assume they will get away with it.
The death sentence DOES NOT deter murder! it is the same with prisons.
I have said many times that 75% of ALL those sent to jail even for a very short sentence NEVER work again. So in the large majority of cases prison affects you for the rest of your life!
just returned to this thread and i've gotta say I'm taking the unusual step of transferring BA to diesel. From someone who has been there and done that I love your candour and your comment to islay, a principle, yoghurt knitter, was bang on; "bs, its the likes of you soft fools thats the problem ": indeed they are the problem diesel, cheers.
I see a lot of support for 'harder prisons' , 'lock them up for minor offences' 'Throw away the key' here on AB , but how many of you would be willing to work as a prison officer? The pay is poor the hours are long , it is dangerous and most of all a lot of the public see prison officers as little better than the prisoners they guard.
Police, firefighters, paramedics , ambulance crew, medical staff all do vital and sometimes dangerous jobs and quite correctly are respected and valued by the public. But who respects and thanks prison staff for the vital job they do?
Newspapers are full of stories about 'soft sentences' and 'easy' prisons, this prejudices their view of prison staff.
People think of prison officers as little more than 'Bluecoats' organising the activities at HMP Holiday Camp.
Police, firefighters, paramedics , ambulance crew, medical staff all do vital and sometimes dangerous jobs and quite correctly are respected and valued by the public. But who respects and thanks prison staff for the vital job they do?
Newspapers are full of stories about 'soft sentences' and 'easy' prisons, this prejudices their view of prison staff.
People think of prison officers as little more than 'Bluecoats' organising the activities at HMP Holiday Camp.
Perhaps we need to get tougher on people who defraud the government. Those who pay cash to avoid VAT etc. What do you suggest? Three years hard labour? Your continuous spoutings and insults to those who don't agree with you goes on ad nauseum. You would make a good politician! Parliament is like a kid's playground, with members of all sides shouting down others instead of listening. People are sent to prison as a punishment, not for further punishment.
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