What Is New About This, "woman Gives Birth To A Baby"?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4098204/Former-Asda-worker-British-man-PREGNANT.html

[Mamyalynne]

Nothing, it's something that happens quite often.

[douglas9401]

Nothing new about a 'look at me' freakshow. Just more envelope pushing.

[Sqad]

Whatever he/she says........she is still a woman in my books.
If it feels that it is a man, then good luck.

[hereIam]

A woman in my books too - men can't give birth !!

[-Talbot-]

Former Asda worker


That really adds some extra interest to the story. I'm really intrigued why Hayden Cross is a former Asda worker.

[ToraToraTora]

It's a woman. If She managed to get pregnant then why does she want to be a he anyway? I'm looking forward to all the right on brigade backing the Dail Mail!

[Hymie]

There is also a news story covered on the BBC, in which a woman who has been suffering from a cold over the Christmas period, was well enough to go to church today!!!!

[Barsel]

That is a completely different story Hymie, there will be lots of people who are concerned for the Queens health, and wish to know if she is improving, but I can't imagine why anyone would be interested to hear that a former female Asda worker is pregnant due to the donation of sperm from someone on Facebook, and after the birth, she will get rid of her lady bumps to become a man! It's a mad world.

[Butterbun]

It seems to be happening more frequently these days but once you have the necessary 'equipment' to get pregnant and have a baby you will always be a woman.

[rockyroad]

When my Tom cat got neutered it didn't become a Tabby. All this gender fluid nonsense should not be supported by the NHS. To be brutal if you were born with a penis you are a man, born with a vagina a woman. No amount of stitching things up and turning things inside out can change that fact. I understand a miniscule amount of babies born have both male and female genitalia but this really is miniscule in comparison to the what is now very fashionable non gender gender. You may feel like a different gender inside but that's mental problems ,not physical, in my opinion.

[sp1814]

rockyroad

You put forward:

but this really is miniscule in comparison to the what is now very fashionable non gender gender.

I don't think many who go through the gender reassignment surgery do it for reasons of fashion.

I suspect there is a lot more to it, as it involves an entire change of life - and is permanent.

Perhaps what we're seeing is a better understanding of what trans people go through. I cannot imagine anything as soul destroying as living your life with a brain disagreeing with what your body is telling you.

Far too many people living like this kill themselves. That to me is a very important consideration when dealing with, and understanding gender dysmorphia.

[Baldric]

///Before becoming pregnant, Hayden was on the NHS gender transition process which helps around 3,000 patients in England at a cost of £22.72million or £29,000 per patient///

I really have no further comment.

[andy-hughes]

rockyroad - //When my Tom cat got neutered it didn't become a Tabby. //

And if you castrate a man, he does not become a woman - gender reassignment is far from that simple, and I am sure you are aware of that.

// All this gender fluid nonsense should not be supported by the NHS. //

Fortunately, the NHS decides on its treatments and surgeries on the basis of rather more than the fact that one contributor regards it as 'nonsense'.

// To be brutal if you were born with a penis you are a man, born with a vagina a woman. No amount of stitching things up and turning things inside out can change that fact. //

That's is not so much brutal, as overly simplistic. You can offer an opinion from a position of ignorance, but you cannot state it as a fact, because factually you are incorrect.

[naomi24]

//I cannot imagine anything as soul destroying as living your life with a brain disagreeing with what your body is telling you.//

If this woman is living with such a soul destroying problem it’s incredibly selfish of her to even consider bringing a child into the world. Poor kid. I’m not surprised NHS doctors refused to freeze her eggs.

[rockyroad]

Andy Well I got a GCSE in Biology andy and I'm sure that MALE mammals have a penis and female mammals have a vagina. That is a fact.

[rockyroad]

sp1841 You have agreed with me, its all in the mind, its a mental problem. If a male man that is one born with just one set of genitalia feels he is a woman inside then in my opinion, this is a mental not physical problem and should be dealt with appropriately.

[andy-hughes]

rockyroad - That is indeed a fact as far as it goes, but in the same way as a cat born in a stable is not a horse - the issue is somewhat more complex than that when it comes to the human species - as the increase in gender reassignment surgery tends to underline.

[Mamyalynne]

//Gender dysphoria is a recognised medical condition, for which treatment is sometimes appropriate. It's not a mental illness.//