Latest Attempt To Derail Democracy By The Sgb?

[ToraToraTora]

Ok Plan a) Hilary will win anyway so no problem, doh! plan b) faithless electors they'll save us! whoops, no dice! Plan c):
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/comment-how-to-remove-trump-from-office/ar-BBy6691?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout
Yep the good ole constitution of the U S of A, the 25th amendment will prevent democracy! PMSL just accept it! Hilary lost now get on with it!

[Buenchico]

Might it not be argued that the US electoral system actually managed to 'derail democracy' anyway, by allowing the candidate with fewer votes to win?

[ToraToraTora]

yawn!

[Quizmonster]

I seem to recall, TTT, that when UKIP gathered 4 million votes in our last 'democratic' General Election but got only one candidate, you whinged like a good 'un!
You really need either to accept systems as they are or decry all of them! You really can't yawn at the faults of one and whine endlessly at those of another.

[ToraToraTora]

i did not, I accept FPTP, go and scan my replies you won't find me whinging about our system or the US one.

[Old_Geezer]

There is a major significant difference between the two. One concerns voting for a local representative in numerous separate areas, so votes from one area for a candidate has no influnce on another area's voting, and nor should it; whilst the other is everyone in the nation being asked to vote on an overall representative for the whole nation, so one person's vote ought not have a smaller weighting than another's.

[jno]

yawn

another detailed rebuttal, then. Why start threads if you're so terrified of debating?

[ToraToraTora]

the result was correct under the rules they use, end of.

[jno]

"end of"!

I claim today's "end-of" prize

[ToraToraTora]

jno the thread is not about the merits of election systems if you want to talk about those start your own thread. I'm debating the continued attempts to thwart democracy.

[Quizmonster]

"Derail democracy, eh?"
Democracy comes from the Greek word 'demos', meaning 'the people'. 66 million PEOPLE voted for Clinton as opposed to only 63 million PEOPLE who voted for Trump.
Yes, I'm well aware that the US voting system is based on electoral colleges, but - given the figures above - in what way are they 'democratic'?

[jno]

you're not debnting. You're saying "yawn" and "end of" whenever anyone disagrees with you. Care to look up "debate" in your Mensa dictionary?

[ToraToraTora]

same as ours, people vote. It's not PR or meant to be.

[ToraToraTora]

I'll debate the post not your attempts to change the subject.

[pastafreak]

Are you saying that making use of an ammendment that is there to protect the nation and its citizens is undemocratic? OK...we don't know yet what kind of president Trump will be...but there's the "what if". Another president could have an injury, suffer dementia,threaten the safety of the nation in some way. That ammendment is there if needed...thankfully. It's democracy...get used to it.

[Togo]

//Democracy comes from the Greek word 'demos', meaning 'the people'. 66 million PEOPLE voted for Clinton as opposed to only 63 million PEOPLE who voted for Trump. //

Funny how that slant on things is not applied to the result in the UK referendum on Brexit. Different goggles used then.

[Kromovaracun]

So basically 3T is in favour of unfair and broken voting systems so long as he likes the candidate - and calls himself a democrat.

Lel.

[anneasquith]

He's an idiot .

[ToraToraTora]

pasta, no a valid use may arise but for now it's not meant to be used because you don't like the result.
Kromo, not true I have never complained about our system or the US regardless of how my favoured candidates fair.

[Peter Pedant]

er what has the 25th amendment got to do with this ?

in the event of Trump being impeached Pence becomes president
end of as s/o has already said

[-Talbot-]

Buenchico
Might it not be argued that the US electoral system actually managed to 'derail democracy' anyway, by allowing the candidate with fewer votes to win?



Democracy in America has been derailed a long, long time then.