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Sad Indictment Of Generations Of Liberal "elite" Thinking?
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so now Teachers will have police style cameras in the classroom. Who'd be a teacher these days after the limp dums have filled every classroom full of disruptive little cretins?
so now Teachers will have police style cameras in the classroom. Who'd be a teacher these days after the limp dums have filled every classroom full of disruptive little cretins?
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"Surely it's the parents who have filled the classrooms with 'little cretins'? " - yes indeed sp and the next generation of the current crop will no doubt continue the tradition until any semblance of education has been removed from schools and we can directly turn out feral illiterate yobos to pump out the next generation of chavs to sponge off the ever diminishing pool of those actually earning a living. I am so glad I'm at this end in my life.
Well if you are speaking from experience it's very sad your teacher friends have classrooms full of cretins (your words).
More interestingly if you are blaming the parents of the children - which generation do their parents come from, yours?
Are there some incidents at the schools I am associated with? Yes, but they are not all day, everyday nor are they 'all' pupils.
I know some very bright ambitious children and young adults and they have parents who want the very best for their future.
More interestingly if you are blaming the parents of the children - which generation do their parents come from, yours?
Are there some incidents at the schools I am associated with? Yes, but they are not all day, everyday nor are they 'all' pupils.
I know some very bright ambitious children and young adults and they have parents who want the very best for their future.
No it is not all, but it does not take many to disrupt a whole class and so saddle all with the prospect of flipping burgers (if they are lucky).
It is a sad indictmnet of where right-on thinking has bought the British classroom when it comes down to having all video cameras.
And I wonder how long before some parent sues because of it.
It is a sad indictmnet of where right-on thinking has bought the British classroom when it comes down to having all video cameras.
And I wonder how long before some parent sues because of it.
So no canings in your day, AOG? No black board erasers thrown, no ruler across the knuckles?
I didn't need punishment at school because I was taught respect. I passed that on to my children who all have managed school with no complaints.
You old grumpy men are seeing things that aren't there.
YMB - I get out plenty thanks. I meet plenty of young people through my children. I live by a secondary school and only see nice polite kids with perfect manners. Maybe you should do the same and stop focusing on the negatives that have happened in every era. It's not good for you health...
I didn't need punishment at school because I was taught respect. I passed that on to my children who all have managed school with no complaints.
You old grumpy men are seeing things that aren't there.
YMB - I get out plenty thanks. I meet plenty of young people through my children. I live by a secondary school and only see nice polite kids with perfect manners. Maybe you should do the same and stop focusing on the negatives that have happened in every era. It's not good for you health...
YMB - like I said earlier in thread it's the same in every town and cities. TTT seems to view all our children the same when it's simply not the case
AOG - I would have said grumpy old people if I could see a grumpy old lady posting on this thread, but I can't. And how can it be ageist? You keeping harping about the war days so compared to me you're old...that's a fact...not ageism!
AOG - I would have said grumpy old people if I could see a grumpy old lady posting on this thread, but I can't. And how can it be ageist? You keeping harping about the war days so compared to me you're old...that's a fact...not ageism!
This is less the result of 'liberal elite' thinking, than simple electioneering by all parties for the last forty-plus years.
We have all been to school, so we all have experience of receiving teaching, and being in a classroom.
That makes parents as potential voters ripe for the emotional tripe trotted out by all governments, and the ludicrous policies dreamed up by their increasingly incompetent and often barmy Education Secretaries - Kenneth Baker, Keith Joseph, Ken Clarke, Ruth Kelly - it's been like giving a chain saw to a psychopath for decades.
So if you start saying you'll 'sort out education' (the trick is to always refer to 'our children' to make you sound all warm and inclusive) - you will get votes.
How do you 'sort out education'? Simple - you change the national curriculum boundaries so often that teachers have no chance to get anything to work before you change it again, until they and the children are so confused they don't know which way is up.
Then bombard teachers with so much criticism for your own failures that they leave in droves, causing the biggest gap in filled teaching and head teacher posts since records begain.
Always blame the previous administration, always make changes that mean nothing useful, and then move on to Health, or somewhere else where can do maximum damage with minimum positive impact.
Until governments stop teaching voters - sorry parents - as 'consumers' of education, and using meaningless but vote-catching sounds like 'parent power', and putting money into university instead of nursery education, you'll get what you've always got.
Education is far too important to be left in the hands of politicians, but there it is, and there it remains.
We have all been to school, so we all have experience of receiving teaching, and being in a classroom.
That makes parents as potential voters ripe for the emotional tripe trotted out by all governments, and the ludicrous policies dreamed up by their increasingly incompetent and often barmy Education Secretaries - Kenneth Baker, Keith Joseph, Ken Clarke, Ruth Kelly - it's been like giving a chain saw to a psychopath for decades.
So if you start saying you'll 'sort out education' (the trick is to always refer to 'our children' to make you sound all warm and inclusive) - you will get votes.
How do you 'sort out education'? Simple - you change the national curriculum boundaries so often that teachers have no chance to get anything to work before you change it again, until they and the children are so confused they don't know which way is up.
Then bombard teachers with so much criticism for your own failures that they leave in droves, causing the biggest gap in filled teaching and head teacher posts since records begain.
Always blame the previous administration, always make changes that mean nothing useful, and then move on to Health, or somewhere else where can do maximum damage with minimum positive impact.
Until governments stop teaching voters - sorry parents - as 'consumers' of education, and using meaningless but vote-catching sounds like 'parent power', and putting money into university instead of nursery education, you'll get what you've always got.
Education is far too important to be left in the hands of politicians, but there it is, and there it remains.
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