A&e Figures For January 'worst Ever', Leaked Data Suggests

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38907492

The worst ever apparently.

Anybody now think that "the NHS is safe with us"

[Gromit]

The missing figure in that leaked data is the total number of people treated.
If, as I suspect, the NHS treated its highest ever number of patients for a January, then of course wait times will be higher.

[Old_Geezer]

Even so, a target of a 4 hour wait would be laughable if it wasn't so serious. And not even making that is beyond the Pale. Something needs sorting out.

[ummmm]

Well things would get better if some people didn't think they were dying every time they had a runny nose.

[mikey4444]

Ummm....that was a ludicrous thing to say.

[AB Editor]

I assume that's why it's so difficult to book a normal GP appointment Ummmm.

[lindapalmara]

I'm sure it was better than the Welsh led NHS! PM quoted yesterday at PMQs the longer waiting lists for treatment.

[ummmm]

Why Mikey? People turn up at A&E when they can either self medicate, phone the NHS line or go to the minor injuries clinic.

Ed...do not all surgeries do emergency appointments?

[dannyk13]

Some time ago I asked my GP about this problem and he said (speaking about his own practice) that the surgery was , at times full of immigrants which meant that , due to language problems, each patient was taking up twice the allocated time per patient.

[dannyk13]

Forgot to say that most of the immigrants were Eastern Europeans.

[ToraToraTora]

what are you proposing mikey?

[Smowball]

I watched a documentary last week about what the 999 telephonists had to deal with and it was ridiculous!! men demanding an ambulance because they were drunk and lost!

[Gromit]

// I'm sure it was better than the Welsh led NHS! PM quoted yesterday at PMQs the longer waiting lists for treatment. //

That was rather misleading. It all boils down to money and how it is allocated. The devolved Governments do not raise taxes and Westminster allocates funds. The Welsh Government can set different targets, and prioritise different treatments and drugs, but they are tied by what they receive from the treasury, which is increasingly, not enough.

[vulcan42]

Here's a major part part of the problem, according to the South central ambulance service, 40% of 999 calls received are from people who do not need to go to hospital. That's 40% of ambulances and hospitals tied up with people who shouldn't be there.

[lindapalmara]

I had an experience recently. My 97 year old Mother had chest pains on 27th December. A "First Response" person arrived, did Checks including heart trace and, although he said there was no indication of heart problems. My Mother has said over and over again that she did not want to go to hospital. She is n an "End of Life" plan, has DNR stickers everywhere but still the medic out pressure on her to go to hospital (to cover himself ). She spent 4 days in different wards (and a corridor at one time and the Discharge nurse was pressuring us to take her home. Her condition had deteriorated but I couldn't get anyone to assess her to be fit to return to her flat. She is now in a Care Home and being well looked after. It's costing £1,240 per week but well worth us paying for it.

[Togo]

Perhaps all these people turning up at A&E have got what Diane Abbot had? You know how serious it is donncha?

[ToraToraTora]

well it might help if it wasn't swamped with sponging foreigners. More money may help in the short term but in reality it needs to stream line itself into a medical organisation rather than 15 layers of empire building management feathering their own nests with medical functions merely secondary activity.

[naomi24]

I agree with Ummmm. Some people do go to their GP/A&E unnecessarily. Still, hopefully some of the pressure will be off once the NHS gets its act together and starts charging those not entitled to use the NHS up front.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-38876527

[ToraToraTora]

it's good that they are doing it naomi but in reality it'll raise very little, health tourists usually don't have a pot to p15s in anyway. They should start fining the airlines for bringing in heavily pregnant Nigerian women for example.

[youngmafbog]

Problems with the NHS stem from people like you Mickey wh use it as a political football.

You have been told many times it needs top to bottom reform but still you wont accept it ny any changes you lable as 'a step to privatisation' or the other jibe you used above.

Money will not help the NHS anything added simply disappears usually into more managers not front line staff. For proof of this just look what happened when Mr Brown injected some cash.

It has been finally broken by swarms of foreigners using using a system that was not designed for the numbers. Couple this with an empire building Management and far too many old people bed blocking hospital beds instead of being in an appropriate nursing facility. Other factors are the cosmetic operations given and the number of interpreters hired at £400 a pop.

Without full reform the NHS will cease to be and at this rate within the next 10 years. There is not one single thing that can be changed that will fix it. Although some issues are larger than others, there are also many small things that add up to a massive problem.

[hereIam]

I blame Labour for allowing all the immigrants in who now use and abuse our wonderful NHS!