Can The UK Recover?

[AB Editor]

Please define what a recovery would look like to you in your comments.

 

This poll is closed.

Can the UK "recover" from the last 50 years of immigration? (a poll based on this discussion)

• No - 55 votes
• 68%
• Yes - 26 votes
• 32%

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[anotheoldgit]

tamborine

/// All 3 are still in planning & being fought off, AOG ///

Ah! I can see the context in which you put what you did.

I apologise for my misinterpretation.

[sp1814]

AB Editor

Do you see what your question implies?

Both 'yes' and 'no' answers are admissions of something bad happening, even if you put the word recover in quotes.

[Zacs-Master]

I wonder if the Ed would enlighten us as to who they see as getting us into this mess from which we need to recover?

[Khandro]

//I wonder if the Ed would enlighten us as to who they see as getting us into this mess from which we need to recover? //

Let me see, where should I start, - and how long have you got?

[-Talbot-]

sp1814 AB Editor

Do you see what your question implies?

Both 'yes' and 'no' answers are admissions of something bad happening, even if you put the word recover in quotes.

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That is why I asked this question, sp

-Talbot-
If the people who voted 'Yes' could explain what the UK will recover from I would be very appreciative.


Because answering Yes or No was an admission that there was something to recover from re immigration.
I could guess who the 'No's were and why they voted but I am genuinely intrigued who vote 'Yes' and why they even voted?

I haven't voted.

[mikey4444]

Neither have I !

[AB Editor]

"AB Editor, Do you see what your question implies?"

Yes. I do. Hence: http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1538371-2.html#answer-10819082

You'll have to see this in the context of trying to get those who place "immigration" at the centre of the UK's problems (rather than, say, the breakdown of inter-generational social contracts), to define what a "win" would be.

It's interesting to see that despite brexit, a right-wing government in the UK, the cutting of refugee support and a anti-immigration sentiment becoming obvious and public, that there's still no chance of "recovery" (according to this poll).

[AB Editor]

For those who haven't voted, you should be able to see the poll results here: http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/poll/can-the-uk-recover/

[mikey4444]

With the greatest respect Ed, I don't think this Poll has shown anything of the sort !

You haven't defined if Britain needs to "recover" or what form that recovery will take, so I would treat the results of the Poll with caution.

[AB Editor]

Did the bit about context, the link to the question which this spun out from and my additional framing not count for anything then Mikey?

I don't think I claimed with was in any way definitive... I claimed the opposite in fact.

[Zacs-Master]

All the pole shows is the difference between 'glass half empty' and 'glass half full' ABers. The demographic of AB precludes the opinion of the younger generation and is therefore predisposed to the result we've seen, due to the fact that, by and large, older people a)don't like change (the threads about this website's redevelopment are testament to this) and b) see the influx of immigrants as changing the country which they were brought up in.

Is this what you meant by 'the breakdown of inter-generational social contracts'?

Anyway, it was a terribly leading question from the editor of a public forum.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// so I would treat the results of the Poll with caution. ///

Perhaps the Ed will give us another vote, and another and yet another, until you get the result that pleases you?

[-Talbot-]

How many of the 22 who voted
'Yes the UK can "recover" from the last 50 years of immigration'
will come forward an explain their reasoning for the Yes vote?

I have read what Bigbad had to say but I would like to hear from the others.

[mikey4444]

Zacs....."Anyway, it was a terribly leading question from the editor of a public forum"

Agree 100%....( sorry Ed ! )

[-Talbot-]

AOG
Perhaps the Ed will give us another vote, and another and yet another, until you get the result that pleases you?

Can you not see that there is no result 'yes or no' that would please mikey, AOG?

[Zacs-Master]

Talbot, I voted yes because it was the closest thing to saying there isn't anything to recover from. It's not a perfect situation but show me a society / country which is.
I regret voting at all if I'm honest, as I disagree fundamentally with the premis, as I expressed above.

[-Talbot-]

There you go, I doubt you are the only one who regrets voting.

[Zacs-Master]

I can only speak for myself. It was rash of me.