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We Proud Ourselves As A Tolerant Nation, So Why Are We So Intolerant Towards The Leader Of Our Friendliest Allies?
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We ridicule him, regarding the colour of his skin, his hair style etc, etc.
We ridicule his wife and family, yet had only praise and admiration for the previous President's wife and family.
We condemn him for speaking the truth about some Mexicans, when he says they are rapists and murderers, while we ourselves are reluctant to condemn some of our Muslims even though they have been proven as murdering terrorists etc.
We also raise petitions so as to get his arranged state visit to this country banned, yet in the past have accepted state visits from some of the world's worse despots.
What kind of message does this give out to, not only the President of the USA, but also the millions of American people who voted him in power, why should they be tolerant to what must seem to them as such a nasty little country as ours?
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We ridicule his wife and family, yet had only praise and admiration for the previous President's wife and family.
We condemn him for speaking the truth about some Mexicans, when he says they are rapists and murderers, while we ourselves are reluctant to condemn some of our Muslims even though they have been proven as murdering terrorists etc.
We also raise petitions so as to get his arranged state visit to this country banned, yet in the past have accepted state visits from some of the world's worse despots.
What kind of message does this give out to, not only the President of the USA, but also the millions of American people who voted him in power, why should they be tolerant to what must seem to them as such a nasty little country as ours?
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mikey4444
Talbot...he said exactly what he is filmed as saying on the BBC link.
No *** Sherlock.
mikey ...he said exactly what he is filmed as saying on the guardian link.
Which wasn't as we have ascertained not 'Swedish terror attack'
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mikey4444
Talbot....."Did he say Swedish terror attack or not?"
No, he didn't !
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Talbot...he said exactly what he is filmed as saying on the BBC link.
No *** Sherlock.
mikey ...he said exactly what he is filmed as saying on the guardian link.
Which wasn't as we have ascertained not 'Swedish terror attack'
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mikey4444
Talbot....."Did he say Swedish terror attack or not?"
No, he didn't !
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AOG - there seems to be something of a royal 'We' in your OP.
I do condemn him for saying that some Mexicans are rapists and murderers - so are some French, and Japanese, and British, and Americans - so to single out Mexicans in order to inflame his supporters is derisory behaviour.
I have not arranged any petitions, or signed any either.
But to get to the point of your argument -
Donald Trump is a politician. You are willing to cut him some slack because he has never been a politician before, but really, if you are going to seek the election to the Presidency, it behoves you in some measure to start boning up a little about what your new job involves - that would be politics in the main.
I have no problem that Donald Trump doesn't know what being President is all about - but I have major problems with his wilful intransigence in either taking advice, obeying the laws of his country, or generally acting as though he understands that he is not in Trump Tower anymore, and he can't simply do what he wants when he wants, without opposition.
As to the attacks on his appearance - well, he is a politician now, and politicians have been subject to personal ridicule as long as there has been media to ridicule them - it goes with the territory.
But President Trump is so ludicrously thin-skinned that he has yet to understand that part of the dignity of office is to ignore ninety-nine per cent of attacks, not have hissy fits and insult people the way he does.
Meryl Streep makes a veiled accusation about him in a speech, and he comes back calling her a 'so-called actress'. She is the most awarded actress on the planet, does he have any idea how petty and small-minded his retort sounded? By all means answer her point, but to personally attack her universally recognised profession abilities is pointless and stupid.
A judge over-rules his self-made decision about immigration, and is called a 'so-called judge'. No President Trump, he is still a judge, elected and serving, his status is not reduced because he went against you, but your status is reduced because you took it personally and hit back with another childish insult.
It is these behaviours that mean that the standard robust debunking of political figures, which happens in every democracy in the world, is only going to ramp up, because he asks for it every single day.
The fact that the President of the United States uses fake tan and makeup and a hairstyle that a pantomime dame would balk at shows his lack of personal dignity and self-awareness, and that makes him more of a target for lampooning, not less.
The UK media don't lampoon him just because he is a buffoon, which he is, but because he calls them liars to their faces.
Another in a massive series of indications that President Trump is not only not fit for office, he is showing no signs of becoming fit for office anytime soon.
I do condemn him for saying that some Mexicans are rapists and murderers - so are some French, and Japanese, and British, and Americans - so to single out Mexicans in order to inflame his supporters is derisory behaviour.
I have not arranged any petitions, or signed any either.
But to get to the point of your argument -
Donald Trump is a politician. You are willing to cut him some slack because he has never been a politician before, but really, if you are going to seek the election to the Presidency, it behoves you in some measure to start boning up a little about what your new job involves - that would be politics in the main.
I have no problem that Donald Trump doesn't know what being President is all about - but I have major problems with his wilful intransigence in either taking advice, obeying the laws of his country, or generally acting as though he understands that he is not in Trump Tower anymore, and he can't simply do what he wants when he wants, without opposition.
As to the attacks on his appearance - well, he is a politician now, and politicians have been subject to personal ridicule as long as there has been media to ridicule them - it goes with the territory.
But President Trump is so ludicrously thin-skinned that he has yet to understand that part of the dignity of office is to ignore ninety-nine per cent of attacks, not have hissy fits and insult people the way he does.
Meryl Streep makes a veiled accusation about him in a speech, and he comes back calling her a 'so-called actress'. She is the most awarded actress on the planet, does he have any idea how petty and small-minded his retort sounded? By all means answer her point, but to personally attack her universally recognised profession abilities is pointless and stupid.
A judge over-rules his self-made decision about immigration, and is called a 'so-called judge'. No President Trump, he is still a judge, elected and serving, his status is not reduced because he went against you, but your status is reduced because you took it personally and hit back with another childish insult.
It is these behaviours that mean that the standard robust debunking of political figures, which happens in every democracy in the world, is only going to ramp up, because he asks for it every single day.
The fact that the President of the United States uses fake tan and makeup and a hairstyle that a pantomime dame would balk at shows his lack of personal dignity and self-awareness, and that makes him more of a target for lampooning, not less.
The UK media don't lampoon him just because he is a buffoon, which he is, but because he calls them liars to their faces.
Another in a massive series of indications that President Trump is not only not fit for office, he is showing no signs of becoming fit for office anytime soon.
You ask why his family is fair game Talbot I have previously given you an answer but you appear to have difficulty understanding it so I shall simplify it so that even you can understand it!
His family continue to run a business whilst his daughterwife supports him on visits. He makes claims and then his family do the complete opposite.
Is that easier for you to understand?
His family continue to run a business whilst his daughterwife supports him on visits. He makes claims and then his family do the complete opposite.
Is that easier for you to understand?
samjenko
I've just watched the clip, and you've been very naughty with your punctuation in transcribing what Trump said.
This is what he said:
“We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night
in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?"
This is what you wrote:
“We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night.
In Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?"
That full stop after last night' should NOT be there, and it changes the meaning of the following sentence.
Trump was claiming that something happened 'last night in Sweden'. There can be no doubt about that.
I've just watched the clip, and you've been very naughty with your punctuation in transcribing what Trump said.
This is what he said:
“We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night
in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?"
This is what you wrote:
“We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night.
In Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?"
That full stop after last night' should NOT be there, and it changes the meaning of the following sentence.
Trump was claiming that something happened 'last night in Sweden'. There can be no doubt about that.
The politest thing you can say about all this is that Trump needs to sack whoever is briefing him, be it terrorist events in Sweden ) and that IS what he meant and it is perverse to claim otherwise) , numbers of electoral college delegates, gifts of uranium to Russia, US crime figures, numbers at his inauguration, etc etc
andy-hughes
I think that Trump called Meryl Streep 'over-rated'. He called the judge who overturned his travel ban 'so-called'.
But let's look at his Meryl Streep retort. I'm sure it's a personal opinion, and millions will no doubt agree that she's over-rated. Millions would disagree - it's just an opinion.
However, it's an opinion that runs counter to what is on record saying less than two years ago.
When asked by The Hollywood Reporter in August 2015 if there are any actresses that he loves, Trump praised Meryl Streep. He said "Meryl Streep is excellent; she’s a fine person, too."
I wonder what happened in the intervening 18 months to move her from being an excellent actress to being over-rated?
In that time, she's only been in Florence Foster Jenkins, and she was superb in that, so...umm...
I think that Trump called Meryl Streep 'over-rated'. He called the judge who overturned his travel ban 'so-called'.
But let's look at his Meryl Streep retort. I'm sure it's a personal opinion, and millions will no doubt agree that she's over-rated. Millions would disagree - it's just an opinion.
However, it's an opinion that runs counter to what is on record saying less than two years ago.
When asked by The Hollywood Reporter in August 2015 if there are any actresses that he loves, Trump praised Meryl Streep. He said "Meryl Streep is excellent; she’s a fine person, too."
I wonder what happened in the intervening 18 months to move her from being an excellent actress to being over-rated?
In that time, she's only been in Florence Foster Jenkins, and she was superb in that, so...umm...
sp1814 - thanks for the clarification, and the context, which does make President Trump's outburst even more childish and inappropriate.
I take your point that millions think Ms Streep is over-rated, but perception and public profiles are everything - something else president Trump is seemingly slow to grasp.
If Ms. Streep is the most highly-rated actress alive as adjudged by her peers and professional critics, then that is the profile the public see, so the one area President Trump should not be attacking is her reputation as an actress - which ie exactly what he did.
Similarly, the judge who enacted the laws of the nation was seen by President Trump as attacking him personally, which he wasn't, but either way, it does not reduce his professional standing one iota, and again the President attacks him in exactly the wrong area for the wrong reasons.
The sooner President Trump wises up to the fact that he is not in his business empire where everyone says yes to him, he is in international politics and everything is up for attack, and learns when to fight, when to walk away, and crucially, when to ignore, he will start being the 'change for good' that his voters thought he would be.
I take your point that millions think Ms Streep is over-rated, but perception and public profiles are everything - something else president Trump is seemingly slow to grasp.
If Ms. Streep is the most highly-rated actress alive as adjudged by her peers and professional critics, then that is the profile the public see, so the one area President Trump should not be attacking is her reputation as an actress - which ie exactly what he did.
Similarly, the judge who enacted the laws of the nation was seen by President Trump as attacking him personally, which he wasn't, but either way, it does not reduce his professional standing one iota, and again the President attacks him in exactly the wrong area for the wrong reasons.
The sooner President Trump wises up to the fact that he is not in his business empire where everyone says yes to him, he is in international politics and everything is up for attack, and learns when to fight, when to walk away, and crucially, when to ignore, he will start being the 'change for good' that his voters thought he would be.
I think Trump needs to be more Presidential.
If someone has a pop at him, he needs to be able to either shrug it off, or offer some form of retort that doesn't make him sound like an 16 year sorority princess, flaming someone on Snapchat.
Like the time when he got into a spat with Arnold Schwarzenegger over their comparative ratings on 'The Apprentice'.
I think he needs to spend time getting up to speed on what's important to the U.S. - domestic and foreign policy.
Also, I think he should quit pretending he speaks Japanese.
He clearly doesn't and making out he does just invites ridicule.
If someone has a pop at him, he needs to be able to either shrug it off, or offer some form of retort that doesn't make him sound like an 16 year sorority princess, flaming someone on Snapchat.
Like the time when he got into a spat with Arnold Schwarzenegger over their comparative ratings on 'The Apprentice'.
I think he needs to spend time getting up to speed on what's important to the U.S. - domestic and foreign policy.
Also, I think he should quit pretending he speaks Japanese.
He clearly doesn't and making out he does just invites ridicule.
Avatar Image Islay You ask why his family is fair game Talbot I have previously given you an answer but you appear to have difficulty understanding it so I shall simplify it so that even you can understand it!
His family continue to run a business whilst his daughterwife supports him on visits. He makes claims and then his family do the complete opposite.
Is that easier for you to understand?
No ... it just makes you sound malicious.
His family continue to run a business whilst his daughterwife supports him on visits. He makes claims and then his family do the complete opposite.
Is that easier for you to understand?
No ... it just makes you sound malicious.
Trump tries to explain remark about Sweden amid confusion
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Tries but fails. Apparently he saw it on the Telly ! More fake news perhaps ?
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Tries but fails. Apparently he saw it on the Telly ! More fake news perhaps ?
Since Trump never made a reference to a 'TERRORIST ATTACK', could this be what he was referring to?
/// During an explosive interview on Friday, Mr Horowitz claimed the refugee violence crisis was out of control but that "European virtues" had put a stop to any discussion on the statistics. ///
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/// During an explosive interview on Friday, Mr Horowitz claimed the refugee violence crisis was out of control but that "European virtues" had put a stop to any discussion on the statistics. ///
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