Labour Hold Stoke, Right Wing Vote Split

[Jackdaw33]

As expected.

[Jackdaw33]

Labour 1 Tories 1

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Labour 7,853
UKIP 5,233
Tories 5,154//

Mr Malice can't analyze results.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Malice, Malice... who the

[vetuste_ennemi]

Let's face it, who would vote for Nutall?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Don't persist with the £350m crap, Murdo. George Osbourne: I whave prepared an emergency budget to protect the UK from a stupid decision. As I recall both Bully members strolled off immediately after the unwashed voted the wrong way. No emergency budget. No panic. FTSE up 10%.

Biggest surprise, we've stll got Carney.

[vetuste_ennemi]

None of us knows best, Murdo.

[Samjenko]

UKIP definitely said they were going to get £350million back from the EU and spend it all on the NHS. (presumably after having won power in a snap election)
I even saw it in red & white on the side of a bus once.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Am watching late night analyses on Sky etc. Point to me is that UKIP is a single issue party But you and I who may both want to get out of the EU while having quite contradictory views on all other issues.

[Samjenko]

Paul Nuttall, 'We're not going anywhere'. ;-)

[Gromit]

A fantastic win for the Tories. A true loss for Labour as both of these by-elections were self inflicted.

As with Farage before him, UKIP have difficulty winning by-elections because their support is thinly scattered anout the whole country, with no 'hotspots' high support. Nuttall was easily discredited with his past false statements catching up with him.

For the record, it was not UKIP who made the false £350million for the NHS claim, it was the mainly Tory Leave campaigners.

[sp1814]

Gromit is correct about that £350million pledge. The confusion comes from the fact that there were two leave campaigns. It was the Vote Leave campaign who toured with the bus that had that statement.

But cleverly, whilst linking the NHS to the £350million, it didn't say that £350million would be used for the NHS. It was a bit smoke and mirrors.

The problem UKIP have going forward is this - apart from leaving the EU (which they have achieved), I don't think that many people know what UKIP actually stand for.

What's they're raison d'être?

[Old_Geezer]

I suggest Samjenko takes anouther look at the photo of the bus before spreading false news and alternative facts. Can not recall anyone other than remainers claiming anyone said that there was £350 million going to be added to the NHS budget, but the remainers were adamant it had to be so.

[Gromit]

Having achieved UK Independence, UKIP need to re-invent themselves to stand any chance of progressing.

The problem is they appear to ge targeting Labour voters, not Tory ones who are a more natural fit.

To beat Labour in the north, they will have to shift to being a left of centre party, which seems impossible and unlikely. They could become the anti-immigrant party, but that wouldn't get them Labour areas.

They do appear to be between a rock and a hard place.

[mikey4444]

Low turnout in both by-elections. Victory for the Tories in the Lakes but a defeat for them in Stoke. Most importantly, UKIP left with egg on its face yet again.

But UKIP never was a real Party, just a protest vote, that died the day after the Referendum left year. Now left with nowhere to go and still unable to choose its candidates with any common sense....why pick someone who has clearly been dishonest about his past ? UKIP died yesterday....RIP.