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Surely even for those who don't support Alexander Blackman must agree he has been in prison long enough.
Surely even for those who don't support Alexander Blackman must agree he has been in prison long enough.
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It's a shame that he couldn't be let out now with the paperwork/
10:45 Tue 28th Mar 2017
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Everything seems to be sliding sideways on this thread and getting away from what actually factually happened into the realms of people's opinions on what didn't actually happen.
Several Marines found an injured insurgent. He was (presumably) disarmed and they began administering first aid to him. Then Alexander Blackman ordered him to be removed from the persistent ground surveillance system but they were seen dragging and kicking him.He then shot him with a 9mm saying "Shuffle off this mortal coil, you ***. It's nothing you wouldn't do to us." he then laughed and said ' I've just broken the Geneva Convention'.
So, clearly the man was no immediate threat, but doubtless would have killed them had he got the chance. He was unarmed. He was injured. There is an element or pre-meditation in removing him from the sight of the surveillance balloon. He was aware his actions in killing the man were illegal.
Clearly he did break that convention and other 'Rules of War'- and therefore does need to be punished as you cannot possibly have soldiers going rogue- I imagine that sort of behaviour would spread very quickly and accomplish nothing except encouraging bad discipline. Has he served a long enough sentence? Probably, he was doubtless under a lot of pressure. Will he lose sleep? I doubt it, I probably wouldn't either truth be told. Should he have a future in the army? Absolutely not.
Several Marines found an injured insurgent. He was (presumably) disarmed and they began administering first aid to him. Then Alexander Blackman ordered him to be removed from the persistent ground surveillance system but they were seen dragging and kicking him.He then shot him with a 9mm saying "Shuffle off this mortal coil, you ***. It's nothing you wouldn't do to us." he then laughed and said ' I've just broken the Geneva Convention'.
So, clearly the man was no immediate threat, but doubtless would have killed them had he got the chance. He was unarmed. He was injured. There is an element or pre-meditation in removing him from the sight of the surveillance balloon. He was aware his actions in killing the man were illegal.
Clearly he did break that convention and other 'Rules of War'- and therefore does need to be punished as you cannot possibly have soldiers going rogue- I imagine that sort of behaviour would spread very quickly and accomplish nothing except encouraging bad discipline. Has he served a long enough sentence? Probably, he was doubtless under a lot of pressure. Will he lose sleep? I doubt it, I probably wouldn't either truth be told. Should he have a future in the army? Absolutely not.
divebuddy. You'll like this:
How would Nelson and the country have fared if he had been subject to modern political correctness and health and safety regulations? We would all be speaking French now!!
You are now on the deck of the recently renamed 'HMS Appeasement!'
Nelson - Give the order to hoist my signal Hardy.
Hardy - Aye Aye Sir
N - Hold on - that is not the signal I dictated to my signals officer.
H - Sorry Sir.
N - England expects every person to do his duty, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, religious persuasion or disability. What gobbledegook is this?
H - Admiralty policy I'm afraid, Sir. We're an equal opportunities employer now. We had devils own job getting 'England' past the censors, lest it be considered racist
N -Gadzooks, Hardy Hand me my pipe and tobacco.
H - Sorry Sir, All naval vessels have been designated smoke-free working environments.
N - In that case, break open a cask of rum. Let us splice the main brace to steel the men before battle.
H - The rum ration has been abolished Admiral. It's a part of Governments policy on binge drinking.
N - Good heavens Hardy, I suppose we had better get on with it. Full speed ahead.
H - I think you'll find there is a 4-knot speed limit on this stretch of water.
N - Dammit man, we are on the eve of the greatest sea fight in history. We must attack with all dispatch. Report from the crow's nest, please!
H - That won't be possible Sir.
N - What?
H - Health and Safety have closed the crow's nest sir, No harness. They say that the rope ladder does not meet with regulations. They won't let anyone up there until a proper scaffolding can be erected.
N - Then get the ships' carpenter without delay, Hardy.
H - Unfortunately he's busy knocking up wheelchair access to the fo'c'sle, Admiral.
N - Wheelchair access? I've never heard anything so absurd. H - Health and Safety again, Sir. We have to provide a barrier-free environment for the differently abled.
N - Differently abled? I've only one arm and one eye and I refuse even to hear mention of the word. I didn't rise to the rank of admiral by playing the disability card.
H - Actually Sir, you did. The Royal Navy is under-represented in the areas of visual impairment and limb deficiency.
N -Whatever next? Give me full sail. The salt spray beckons.
H - A couple of problems there, too Sir. Health and Safety won't let the men aloft without crash helmets. And they don't want anyone breathing in too much salt - haven't you seen the adverts?
N - I've never heard of such infamy. Break out the cannon and tell the men to stand by to engage the enemy.
H - The men are a bit worried about shooting at anyone, Admiral.
N - What? This is mutiny.
H - It's not that Sir, It's just that they are afraid of being charged for murder if they actually kill anyone. There are a couple of human rights lawyers on board, watching everyone like hawks.
N - Then how are we supposed to sink the French and the Spanish?
H - Actually Sir, we're not!
N - We're not?
H - No Sir, The French and Spanish are our European partners now. According to the Common Fisheries Policy, we shouldn't even be in this stretch of water. We could get hit with a huge claim for compensation.
N - But you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the devil.
H - I wouldn't let the ship's diversity co-ordinator hear you saying that Sir You could be up on a disciplinary.
N - But surely you must consider every man an enemy who speaks ill of your King.
H - Not any more sir. We must be inclusive in this multicultural age. Now put on your Kevlar vest, it's the rules.
N - Don't tell me - Health and Safety. What happened to rum, sodomy and the lash?
H - As I explained Sir, Rum is off the menu, and there is a ban on corporal punishment.
N - What about sodomy?
H - I believe that is to be encouraged Sir.
N - Thank God for that - In that case - kiss me Hardy!
How would Nelson and the country have fared if he had been subject to modern political correctness and health and safety regulations? We would all be speaking French now!!
You are now on the deck of the recently renamed 'HMS Appeasement!'
Nelson - Give the order to hoist my signal Hardy.
Hardy - Aye Aye Sir
N - Hold on - that is not the signal I dictated to my signals officer.
H - Sorry Sir.
N - England expects every person to do his duty, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, religious persuasion or disability. What gobbledegook is this?
H - Admiralty policy I'm afraid, Sir. We're an equal opportunities employer now. We had devils own job getting 'England' past the censors, lest it be considered racist
N -Gadzooks, Hardy Hand me my pipe and tobacco.
H - Sorry Sir, All naval vessels have been designated smoke-free working environments.
N - In that case, break open a cask of rum. Let us splice the main brace to steel the men before battle.
H - The rum ration has been abolished Admiral. It's a part of Governments policy on binge drinking.
N - Good heavens Hardy, I suppose we had better get on with it. Full speed ahead.
H - I think you'll find there is a 4-knot speed limit on this stretch of water.
N - Dammit man, we are on the eve of the greatest sea fight in history. We must attack with all dispatch. Report from the crow's nest, please!
H - That won't be possible Sir.
N - What?
H - Health and Safety have closed the crow's nest sir, No harness. They say that the rope ladder does not meet with regulations. They won't let anyone up there until a proper scaffolding can be erected.
N - Then get the ships' carpenter without delay, Hardy.
H - Unfortunately he's busy knocking up wheelchair access to the fo'c'sle, Admiral.
N - Wheelchair access? I've never heard anything so absurd. H - Health and Safety again, Sir. We have to provide a barrier-free environment for the differently abled.
N - Differently abled? I've only one arm and one eye and I refuse even to hear mention of the word. I didn't rise to the rank of admiral by playing the disability card.
H - Actually Sir, you did. The Royal Navy is under-represented in the areas of visual impairment and limb deficiency.
N -Whatever next? Give me full sail. The salt spray beckons.
H - A couple of problems there, too Sir. Health and Safety won't let the men aloft without crash helmets. And they don't want anyone breathing in too much salt - haven't you seen the adverts?
N - I've never heard of such infamy. Break out the cannon and tell the men to stand by to engage the enemy.
H - The men are a bit worried about shooting at anyone, Admiral.
N - What? This is mutiny.
H - It's not that Sir, It's just that they are afraid of being charged for murder if they actually kill anyone. There are a couple of human rights lawyers on board, watching everyone like hawks.
N - Then how are we supposed to sink the French and the Spanish?
H - Actually Sir, we're not!
N - We're not?
H - No Sir, The French and Spanish are our European partners now. According to the Common Fisheries Policy, we shouldn't even be in this stretch of water. We could get hit with a huge claim for compensation.
N - But you must hate a Frenchman as you hate the devil.
H - I wouldn't let the ship's diversity co-ordinator hear you saying that Sir You could be up on a disciplinary.
N - But surely you must consider every man an enemy who speaks ill of your King.
H - Not any more sir. We must be inclusive in this multicultural age. Now put on your Kevlar vest, it's the rules.
N - Don't tell me - Health and Safety. What happened to rum, sodomy and the lash?
H - As I explained Sir, Rum is off the menu, and there is a ban on corporal punishment.
N - What about sodomy?
H - I believe that is to be encouraged Sir.
N - Thank God for that - In that case - kiss me Hardy!
///A historic murder conviction against a British marine who shot dead a seriously wounded Taliban prisoner in Afghanistan has been quashed and replaced with one of manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility///
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Alright I think some are shocked that the Marines would want someone who had such a lapse of good judgement back in their midst. that does concern me a great deal tbh as he will doubtless be hero worshipped to some degree by young recruits when they would be better served being mentored by someone less volatile shall we say?
kvalidir
Everything seems to be sliding sideways on this thread and getting away from what actually factually happened into the realms of people's opinions on what didn't actually happen.
What has 'factually happened' is the sentenced has been reduced to seven years and Alexander Blackman will soon be out of prison.
Do you only accept the judgements of our courts when they suit your personal feelings?
This thread wasn't started to give a platform for rants that have already been aired.
Everything seems to be sliding sideways on this thread and getting away from what actually factually happened into the realms of people's opinions on what didn't actually happen.
What has 'factually happened' is the sentenced has been reduced to seven years and Alexander Blackman will soon be out of prison.
Do you only accept the judgements of our courts when they suit your personal feelings?
This thread wasn't started to give a platform for rants that have already been aired.
Talbot, not sure what you're digging at me for, I was just reminding the likes of andy etc what actually did happen ( to avoid the losing sleep at night debate etc under misapprehensions), and I'm not against this man being released, although I think his judgement was entirely flawed and on that basis he would be a poor choice for a further military career.
I don't get you Islay.
Sgt Blackman has not murdered anybody, and yet you persist in calling him a murderer.
On another thread you pointed out more than once that Martin McGuiness had never been convicted of murder....even though it is accepted knowledge that he personally killed people and had people killed - including completely innocent people.
On the one hand you are vociferously accusing somebody of murder when in fact he did not murder that person, and on the other hand you are complaing of people referring to McGuiness as a murderer because he had not been convicted (only by luck and then by appeasement).
Your moral compass is going haywire.
Sgt Blackman has not murdered anybody, and yet you persist in calling him a murderer.
On another thread you pointed out more than once that Martin McGuiness had never been convicted of murder....even though it is accepted knowledge that he personally killed people and had people killed - including completely innocent people.
On the one hand you are vociferously accusing somebody of murder when in fact he did not murder that person, and on the other hand you are complaing of people referring to McGuiness as a murderer because he had not been convicted (only by luck and then by appeasement).
Your moral compass is going haywire.
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