Should Pavement Parking Be Made Illegal In Other Areas, Just As It Is In London?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/784500/pavement-parking-UK-laws-rules-ban-fine

But one has to ask why do some motorists partially park on pavements?

The answer being in some cases there is no where else for them to safely park, especially if the road is narrow.

Expensively provided provisions are made for cyclists such as cycle ways at no cost to the cyclists whatsoever, but no special areas are provided for cars to park except for expensive car parks or equally expensive road side parking areas.

[Peter Pedant]

it is now

you have to leave the room for a leddy and pram
or else it is ticket time !

[hc4361]

There is plenty of free car parks and free on road parking in my area, AOG.
Car tax hasn't paid for the roads since Churchill's day - everyone who pays tax and council tax pays for the roads, even those who walk everywhere.

If the pavement is wide enough not to impede pedestrians, pram pushers, wheelchair users and mobility scooter users then I see no harm in pavement parking if it facilitates the free flow of traffic.

[ToraToraTora]

it's already illegal.

[hc4361]

It isn't in most areas, with the exception of HGVs, unless there are parking restrictions in place such as yellow lines.

[fender62]

i live near a school and see this daily, school run mum's parking on pavements and even on double yellow lines and in front of people's drives..

[hc4361]

Where the local authority has banned parking on pavements there should be clear signs.
Fender, it is a problem outside every school.

[New Judge]

Parking on the pavement (even one wheel) is illegal in London . It’s a “must not” in the Highway Code. Parking on the pavement elsewhere is a “should not” in the HC. This means that although it is not illegal in itself the advice of the HC may be taken into consideration when other charges are brought (like "causing an unnecessary obstruction" – I think that’s what the section is entitled).

[emmie]

what about the pedestrians, where are we supposed to walk.

[hereIam]

^ Especially with cyclists using them all the time as well !

[emmie]

hereiam
indeed they do.

[Mamyalynne]

Pedestrians can scrape their way past usually complete with walking stick/shopping trolley or buggy - the damage to the nearside isn't always too noticeable.

[woofgang]

mamya for best answer :)

[hc4361]

If pedestrians can't pass the driver is committing the offence of obstruction and can be fined.

[Mamyalynne]

Yes but when you're halfway up Queensgate going to the greengrocers for a turnip you just need to keep going.

[TWR]

The road down our way has just been lined for resident parking which are never used for there intention, if the residents had to park where they should be parked there would be a lot of bad tempers, I totally agree with " NO PAVEMENT" parking, in some cases the service pipes are not that far below the tarmac.

[Old_Geezer]

Since it is often a necessity then no. The suggestion is simply another way to get at the driver who is got at far more than is reasonable already. If authorities don't what vehicles parked partly over the kerb then the moral responsibility is for the authorities to ensure roads are wide enough for the job they have to do first not kick their usual scapegoats for fun.

Meanwhile the legislation allowing government's theft of the road licence money is clearly something that should never have passed, and should be repealed, with full refunds to those who have had road tax from them and used for other things ASAP. It's a simple accountancy trick to steal the money by saying it isn't for the roads after all and then carry on collecting it from those who can not refuse. The public know it is for the roads and is being taken immorally as they are used as a cash cow.

It's well overdue the time they actually spent what they collected on the roads that need it and stop trying to distract the public by getting at drivers for parking how they have to, because the authorities haven't provided proper width roads.

[emmie]

but some drivers are just bloody minded and will park on part of the pavement as i see regularly.

[Mamyalynne]

What is the magic formula for widening a road/street that has been there many decades if not more?

[MallyJ]

It should be...I am sick of being expected to walk in the road because some one is unprepared to park a little bit away from his/her destination and I am not pushing a pram whilst attempting to hold onto a toddler as many people are. Equally I am expected to get into the road to let cyclists pass on the pavement.....despite it being illegal to ride on pavements

[hc4361]

OG, it is called the Vehicle Excise Licence and as the name makes clear - it is a tax.

“There has been no direct relationship between vehicle tax and road expenditure since 1937.”
Policy and External Communications Directorate, Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA)