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Is This Not The Most Morally Bankrupt Thing Ever, Even For Teeresa May?
Teresa May has actually threatened to potentially cease co-operation on security matters with EU member states if she doesn't get her own way to get a trade deal negotiated alongside 'divorce talks' ( which frankly isn't going to happen).
Doesn't showing such panicked fearful posturing already not simply get the back up of every EU member country and weaken our position as it is surely not the actions of a leader of a country to endanger the rest of Europe ( and indeed ourselves) in a vain bid to get her own way, but rather of someone who is morally bankrupt and desperately out of her depth in the international field?
http:// www.dai lymail. co.uk/n ews/art icle-43 62544/D ay-one- Brussel s-waili ng-accu sed-bla ckmail. html
Doesn't showing such panicked fearful posturing already not simply get the back up of every EU member country and weaken our position as it is surely not the actions of a leader of a country to endanger the rest of Europe ( and indeed ourselves) in a vain bid to get her own way, but rather of someone who is morally bankrupt and desperately out of her depth in the international field?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.Oh well beat me to death with your pension book Talbot, I made a typo on a phone whilst travelling! Personally that underlines everything wrong with the Brexit camp- rabid about a typo on a message board and unconcerned that our Prime Minister, beloved of all the swivel eyed loons, is threatening our nearest neighbours with withholding information about terrorists if they won't capitulate and do everything her way. I could not be more ashamed I don't think to be represented by this ghastly unethical woman and her ghastly unethical government. How embarrassing.
"In that respect Europe needs us just as much as we need them. "
We don't actually know that, though. We are not privy to the information available to GCHQ and Europol, so we don't know how they compare outside of total speculation. Sure, Britain's intelligence agencies have a reputation for punching well above their weight and have links with the CIA that Europol doesn't. But Europol also has the combined resources of 27 countries and we don't.
As to whether this is moral... well, it's politics. I'm not sure what you were expecting. We all knew this was going to come up in the negotiations, and people decided to risk it anyway. If the UK isn't willing to threaten the future of EU citizens here (which it isn't), then it really doesn't have many cards to play, and this is one of them.
We don't actually know that, though. We are not privy to the information available to GCHQ and Europol, so we don't know how they compare outside of total speculation. Sure, Britain's intelligence agencies have a reputation for punching well above their weight and have links with the CIA that Europol doesn't. But Europol also has the combined resources of 27 countries and we don't.
As to whether this is moral... well, it's politics. I'm not sure what you were expecting. We all knew this was going to come up in the negotiations, and people decided to risk it anyway. If the UK isn't willing to threaten the future of EU citizens here (which it isn't), then it really doesn't have many cards to play, and this is one of them.
And no it is not 'The Most Morally Bankrupt Thing Ever'
If remainers are so level headed how come we never had (could have missed it) a thread slating the EU members who rejected this?
https:/ /www.th eguardi an.com/ politic s/2017/ jan/17/ deal-ci tizens- rights- full-eu -theres a-may-b rexit-r eferend um
If remainers are so level headed how come we never had (could have missed it) a thread slating the EU members who rejected this?
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Oh well beat me to death with your pension book Talbot, I made a typo on a phone whilst travelling! Personally that underlines everything wrong with the Brexit camp- rabid about a typo on a message board and unconcerned that our Prime Minister, beloved of all the swivel eyed loons, is threatening our nearest neighbours with withholding information about terrorists if they won't capitulate and do everything her way. I could not be more ashamed I don't think to be represented by this ghastly unethical woman and her ghastly unethical government. How embarrassing.
Lol ... reading that (complete with insults) I think I know who is rabid.
Oh well beat me to death with your pension book Talbot, I made a typo on a phone whilst travelling! Personally that underlines everything wrong with the Brexit camp- rabid about a typo on a message board and unconcerned that our Prime Minister, beloved of all the swivel eyed loons, is threatening our nearest neighbours with withholding information about terrorists if they won't capitulate and do everything her way. I could not be more ashamed I don't think to be represented by this ghastly unethical woman and her ghastly unethical government. How embarrassing.
Lol ... reading that (complete with insults) I think I know who is rabid.
kvalidir
Yes Talbot you've sussed me out. I'm part of a Remainer Splinter Cell whose job it is to upset old Brexiteers
You won't upset me but you appear to have upset yourself, calm down dear.
Don't you have the option to stay in Germany anyway?
Although I have been talking to two Germans today who are very upset and think Brexit isn't any good at all for Germany.
Yes Talbot you've sussed me out. I'm part of a Remainer Splinter Cell whose job it is to upset old Brexiteers
You won't upset me but you appear to have upset yourself, calm down dear.
Don't you have the option to stay in Germany anyway?
Although I have been talking to two Germans today who are very upset and think Brexit isn't any good at all for Germany.
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