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Why Do Labour Have Such A Problem With Israel?
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It is common knowledge that prior to WWII Hitler was sympathetic with the idea of an Israeli homeland so why is that such an anathema to Labour?
It is common knowledge that prior to WWII Hitler was sympathetic with the idea of an Israeli homeland so why is that such an anathema to Labour?
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the fact that Hitler seemed pro-British Empire ( and very pro Duke of Windsor )in the thirties doesnt negate the fact we fought a disastrous war with germany 1939-45
the Germans supported the Madagascar Plan didnt they ? {yes]
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but that doesnt mean Trblinka etc never happened
the Germans supported the Madagascar Plan didnt they ? {yes]
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but that doesnt mean Trblinka etc never happened
TTT, Hitler didn’t have an Israeli ‘homeland’ in mind at all – he just planned to send all the Jews to live in Palestine, so Ken Livingstone is wrong to say that Hitler was a Zionist. He wasn’t. Labour has a problem with Israel because they believe that, morally, it shouldn’t exist – and they’re right really. That said, it does exist and it’s not going away, so Labour should accept that and move on – but as always Labour never moves on.
TTT, it isn’t female ‘illogic’ – it’s history. It’s the same scrap of land, but at that time it wasn’t the Jewish ‘Homeland’ of Israel’. That didn’t exist until 1948 when the Palestinians were unceremoniously booted off their land, and the State of Israel was founded. Therefore, had Hitler removed all the Jews as he planned, they’d have been living in Palestine – not in Israel. Hitler had no intention of supporting the Jewish claim to that piece of land. He simply wanted them out of Germany. Is that clearer?
Ken is hardly popular with the party. Any feeble excuse to spin and accuse him of being unfit to be a member is grabbed with relish. Not that I have the enthusiasm to support him much after the hash he made as London's major. But there again it seems all mayors are terrible, pushing their daft ideas on the long suffering public.
I'd suspect it would be around Resolution 181's right to award the land as a homeland for the jews.
I don't believe that whether Germany just wanted rid of jews or supported a homeland is that relevant. It's reading too much into statements indicating a similarity of purpose. If some folk weren't looking for cause to make fuss it'd have passed without incident.
I don't believe that whether Germany just wanted rid of jews or supported a homeland is that relevant. It's reading too much into statements indicating a similarity of purpose. If some folk weren't looking for cause to make fuss it'd have passed without incident.
Krom, //What makes you say that naomi?//
I say that because, unlike some who say only what suits their personal agenda, I’m not averse to defending those who I perceive to be on the receiving end of injustice. When the State of Israel was founded the Palestinians were treated abominably.
OG, Ken Livingstone’s claim was not only completely inaccurate; it was a very foolish one. Hitler’s appalling treatment of the Jews is, unsurprisingly, a very touchy subject.
I say that because, unlike some who say only what suits their personal agenda, I’m not averse to defending those who I perceive to be on the receiving end of injustice. When the State of Israel was founded the Palestinians were treated abominably.
OG, Ken Livingstone’s claim was not only completely inaccurate; it was a very foolish one. Hitler’s appalling treatment of the Jews is, unsurprisingly, a very touchy subject.
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