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Have The Scales Fallen From Trump's Eyes?
I must admit that President Trump has risen a bit in my estimation after his outspoken criticism of the genocidal Assad. Yes one can certainly argue that it should have happened long ago and equally that the Syrian dictator probably felt he had a freer hand with the seeming washing of American hands and the assertiveness of his ally in genocide Putin. But maybe better late than never,
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As for the UN investigation into previous mass killings by suspected chemical agents, their remit was to establish the prof of the use of such weapons and to indicate their likely source. They did not assign blame to either side, while stating they the weapons must have come from Syrian government stocks.
However, several countries, notably France, Germany, the US, the U.K., and Turkey released reports from their intelligence agencies, stating that the most likely perpetrators were the Syrian government, who were apparently rebuked by Hezbollah for doing so.
However, several countries, notably France, Germany, the US, the U.K., and Turkey released reports from their intelligence agencies, stating that the most likely perpetrators were the Syrian government, who were apparently rebuked by Hezbollah for doing so.
andy-hughes, //no proof, but the general consensus from those who know about these things is..... //
The first two words of that sentence are paramount.
Would you like to be convicted on the basis "those who know" (who most likely want a certain outcome anyway).
Nothing should be done until there is proof.
On other issues you are the first one to say how a person is innocent until proven guilty - be consistent or be quiet I suggest.
The first two words of that sentence are paramount.
Would you like to be convicted on the basis "those who know" (who most likely want a certain outcome anyway).
Nothing should be done until there is proof.
On other issues you are the first one to say how a person is innocent until proven guilty - be consistent or be quiet I suggest.
Khandro - // The first two words of that sentence are paramount.
Would you like to be convicted on the basis "those who know" (who most likely want a certain outcome anyway).
Nothing should be done until there is proof.
On other issues you are the first one to say how a person is innocent until proven guilty - be consistent or be quiet I suggest. //
I am sure you know the difference between someone making a casual observation, and that same person stating that they believe that something has happened, without evidence or due process.
On that basis, I am sure you can work out which of those two my post is.
Would you like to be convicted on the basis "those who know" (who most likely want a certain outcome anyway).
Nothing should be done until there is proof.
On other issues you are the first one to say how a person is innocent until proven guilty - be consistent or be quiet I suggest. //
I am sure you know the difference between someone making a casual observation, and that same person stating that they believe that something has happened, without evidence or due process.
On that basis, I am sure you can work out which of those two my post is.
ichi; //No there are not 'many agendas'//
If you believe that you must be simple-minded (to whom everything appears to be simple) take a peep at this;
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We've even seen the CIA fighting on opposite sides to the Pentagon!!
There are hundreds of agendas!
If you believe that you must be simple-minded (to whom everything appears to be simple) take a peep at this;
https:/
We've even seen the CIA fighting on opposite sides to the Pentagon!!
There are hundreds of agendas!
The Syrian war is complicated, but that does not mean that for every single incident you can simply throw up your hands and go 'bah, phew, there's a lot more to this than meets the eye. Just to repeat yet again, that's simply trying to obfuscate an unpalatable truth - for whatever reason you might want to do that.
Let's look again at the Russian fairy story: for one thing their timing does not match the first pictures of the incident. For another, aerial footage of the scene based on geolocation of the incident shows nothing like an impact crater for a munitions dump. Then there's the fact that the chemical weapons used in Syria and Iraq are binary agents, which means that they have to be 'primed' shortly before use and would, as I said earlier, have been destroyed harmlessly in any explosion - albeit it with rather a big bang and fire, of which there's in any case no evidence.
Also, the Russians claimed that these alleged weapons were for use by rebels in Iraq, despite the fact that to transport them there they'd need to cross through territory held by other government and IS. And in any case, for that purpose? The only possible target for them would be IS in Iraq, whom the rebels aren't even fighting.
Someone above questioned why Assad would endanger his 'lottery win' with this sort of PR 'car wreck' , but as a matter of fact Assad has lost a few battles recently. There was a surprise rebel offensive last week, and at times even Aleppo has been cut off. So plenty of reasons why he might go for a revenge terror attack. After all he's got away with everything else so far.
Let's look again at the Russian fairy story: for one thing their timing does not match the first pictures of the incident. For another, aerial footage of the scene based on geolocation of the incident shows nothing like an impact crater for a munitions dump. Then there's the fact that the chemical weapons used in Syria and Iraq are binary agents, which means that they have to be 'primed' shortly before use and would, as I said earlier, have been destroyed harmlessly in any explosion - albeit it with rather a big bang and fire, of which there's in any case no evidence.
Also, the Russians claimed that these alleged weapons were for use by rebels in Iraq, despite the fact that to transport them there they'd need to cross through territory held by other government and IS. And in any case, for that purpose? The only possible target for them would be IS in Iraq, whom the rebels aren't even fighting.
Someone above questioned why Assad would endanger his 'lottery win' with this sort of PR 'car wreck' , but as a matter of fact Assad has lost a few battles recently. There was a surprise rebel offensive last week, and at times even Aleppo has been cut off. So plenty of reasons why he might go for a revenge terror attack. After all he's got away with everything else so far.
ichi; // but as a matter of fact Assad has lost a few battles recently. There was a surprise rebel offensive last week,//
Are you seriously suggesting that he is anything but in control?
You really seem to be searching for reasons to support your belief, rather than seriously asking the question, why at this stage of the game would he do that - out of pique? I don't think so.
Are you seriously suggesting that he is anything but in control?
You really seem to be searching for reasons to support your belief, rather than seriously asking the question, why at this stage of the game would he do that - out of pique? I don't think so.
I am just updating you on the war Khandro.
By the way it looks like the Pentagon is exploring options of creating "safe areas" in Syria and military action to "ground the Syrian airforce"
Turkey has condemned Russia's support for Assad (have they only just realised?!), while even Mr Peskov has called it a "terrible crime".
Of course, Russia has not kept an "open mind" on this, having dreamt up its own explanation, as we have scene. You can believe ithat, or think it is a likely option if you like :-)
They often change their minds and come up with other "plausible explanations" subsequently.
By the way it looks like the Pentagon is exploring options of creating "safe areas" in Syria and military action to "ground the Syrian airforce"
Turkey has condemned Russia's support for Assad (have they only just realised?!), while even Mr Peskov has called it a "terrible crime".
Of course, Russia has not kept an "open mind" on this, having dreamt up its own explanation, as we have scene. You can believe ithat, or think it is a likely option if you like :-)
They often change their minds and come up with other "plausible explanations" subsequently.
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