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Social Care System On Brink Of Collapse
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It absolutely is. Residential homes are being strangled by red tape and rules, while there are no rules in homecare whatsoever. The biggest branch of homes here in South Bucks are trying to change all the contracts for staff so they are all the same- reduce the pay to minimum wage and lose all night, weekend, DRP enhancements and a week of annual leave. Due to a...
12:13 Tue 11th Apr 2017
Emmie....The majority of care workers are paid minimum wage, or not much more then minimum wage.
The job needs to be fund properly.....your experience with your Mum shows that there is money to be made, but not by the care workers.
This problem is only going to get worse as time goes on. People are living into the 90's and even 100's more and more now. Its everybody's potential problem.
The job needs to be fund properly.....your experience with your Mum shows that there is money to be made, but not by the care workers.
This problem is only going to get worse as time goes on. People are living into the 90's and even 100's more and more now. Its everybody's potential problem.
I recently spent some time in hospital and then in a respite care home. What worried me was that the nursing staff and carers all worked 13 hour shifts. Apart from the fact that you can't be at your best towards the end of the shift, assuming 8 hours sleep and an hour or so travelling time that gives you just about 2 hours a day to have a life. That is no life for man or beast.
I have no idea how to work it out but it is time we looked at our priorities in life. The amount of money that footballers are paid in comparison to people who look after us is in my opinion a national disgrace. A new national scale of rates of pay should be drawn up by parliament & severely stuck to so that all workers get the right rate for the job they do. ( am I an idealist or a communist ?)
I heard a lady on R4 today came up with a feasible suggestion. Social care is mainly provided by women, right? Women should be allowed to retire at 60 (as in the recent past) but would only take half of their pension. They would then work be encouraged to work part-time in social care to earn the rest of their living until they retired fully at 65 or whatever. I hasten to add that this option should be open to men as well! I thought that the idea had 'legs'.
Brexit doesn't prevent us employing immigrants, it allows control. However it is a good opportunity to sort employment systems out so one doesn't feel a need to import cheap labour thus keeping native citizens on welfare for the taxpayer to fund.
Market forces. If a job position needs filling then the wages and conditions need to be set to attract the necessary staff. No good moaning it's expensive and trying to short cut it. As employers have been allowed to previously. Customers have to endure market conditions, employers need to too.
A subject for a separate thread might be whether welfare levels discourage some to not do their bit for the community and sit back taking their public payment on a permanent basis. Difficult to manage that so only those in need get the help. But if it could be improved there'd be more cash available for the carer budget too.
Market forces. If a job position needs filling then the wages and conditions need to be set to attract the necessary staff. No good moaning it's expensive and trying to short cut it. As employers have been allowed to previously. Customers have to endure market conditions, employers need to too.
A subject for a separate thread might be whether welfare levels discourage some to not do their bit for the community and sit back taking their public payment on a permanent basis. Difficult to manage that so only those in need get the help. But if it could be improved there'd be more cash available for the carer budget too.
I've a better idea jourdain. Let everyone retire at 60 do we aren't discriminating against males again, and that releases lots of job positions to allow folk to escape off of welfare and avoiding expecting those who have already contributed to the community to carry on. Of course the separate issue of paying sufficient to attract carers would need to be sorted in tandem.
I've worked in care homes in the past . We were often expected to do a double shift if someone rang in sick, in fact we didn't get much choice! The hours are incredibly long, with barely any breaks. For people like Emmies mum it would almost be better ( although not 'correct') to find someone completely trustworthy to move in with her as a lodger with free bed and bills, and pay her an amount each week just for herself . I'm not saying that's ideal but would be a damn site cheaper and if you found the right person it would also mean companionship
smow, sounds sensible but things have moved on rather quickly, she now needs total care, that may well be
a nursing home, will know in the next week or two.
She has also worked in nursing homes and i know how many hours she put in for a lot less than they get now.
its why she is so reluctant to go into a home, because she knows how bad some of the staff were, not that all are, just some.
a nursing home, will know in the next week or two.
She has also worked in nursing homes and i know how many hours she put in for a lot less than they get now.
its why she is so reluctant to go into a home, because she knows how bad some of the staff were, not that all are, just some.
These figures are rather dubious. For starters:
1) How many of these leave to become a mum (there are many young girls doing it)
2) How many are leaving because they wish to return to their country (EU and non EU) ?
3) How do you know how many of those leaving dont go back in - I doubt very much someone is asking.
1) How many of these leave to become a mum (there are many young girls doing it)
2) How many are leaving because they wish to return to their country (EU and non EU) ?
3) How do you know how many of those leaving dont go back in - I doubt very much someone is asking.
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