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Has Trump Joined The Neocons?

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Khandro | 14:21 Fri 14th Apr 2017 | News
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Only days before last November’s election, Trump told a crowd in Florida that Hillary Clinton “wants to start a shooting war in Syria…that could very well lead to World War III.”
Pshh!
Having supported him so far (to the disapproval of many ABers), I no longer can, and ironically these detractors and armchair warriors seem now to be on his side.

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Life's strange ain't it.
one of the reasons people disliked him was because they found him untrustworthy. This seems to prove them right.
Well, to be fair, you've had plenty of warnings that he isn't a trustworthy or honest candidate. He's always done or said essentially whatever he needs to in order to win people over. That's what a populist does by definition. I very much doubt this is the start of a consistent foreign policy, I imagine it'll waver all over the place for the next four years depending on what the President thinks is popular.

I am not "team Trump" and never have been, precisely because I think he's a dishonest, unstable con-man. On the balance of information available to me, I thought his strike on Syria last week was probably the right thing to do (though I know less about the Afghanistan one so cannot really comment). This is hardly a wholesale reversal as it doesn't really have any bearing on the major problems I've always had with him.

The way I look at it is - a terrible president made one good decision and is still a terrible president. A broken clock may be right twice a day, but you wouldn't put it on your wall.
Precisely kromo.

I think your confusing support of this one act with overall support for him Khandro.
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"this one act " Errr, have you not read the news? there's been another "act" in Afghanistan, also people close to him say he is deadly serious about nuking N.Korea.
It was you who referenced a 'shooting war in Syria'. Nothing about Afghanistan.
Who's trying to start a shooting war in Syria, then?!

The last thing Syria needs is a .. oh hang on


As for the Afghanistan isn't Trump just going after IS as he said he would do?
I thought you'd be pleased ...
Hard to see anything ironic in this if the detractors are, as you say, armchair warriors.
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ichi; Dropping a MOAB costing $15 million to kill 30 doesn't sound sensible or even cost effective and no doubt western blood will now be shed in retaliation - probably in Europe as its an easier target than the US.
It must have cheered you up though.
It doesn't cheer me up at all, Khandro. I am one of the people you seem unable to see, I was a detractor and still am a detractor.
My apologies, Khandro, I thought you were addressing my post.
I'm neither cheered nor depressed by it: i merely note that here's another attempt to carry out what he promised. Albeit one of the better aims. I'm just surprised you're surprised, I mean when he said he intended going after IS what did you think he was going to do: leer and pout at them very hard? A terrifying enough prospect I admit ...
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How is attacking the Syrian air force base 'going after isis'?
There are only two choices in Syria, an Isis Islamic state ruling by sharia law with mayhem both at home and with all its neighbours, or Assad who may not be the most democratic of rulers, but he is not, nor has ever been a threat to anyone else, whereas isis' Islamic control would wish to call for the death and destruction of all other non Sunni groups including Christians and the complete annihilation of Israel.
Which would you prefer?
With reference to the MOAB attack in Afghanistan; 30 killed and 300 new recruits! (their tunnels by the way were originally paid for by the Americans).
I was - as I pointed out - referring to the Afghan attack only. 'ISA' should we call them here??
If it's any comfort to you, the reported death toll from the Afghan bomb has risen to over 90, making it 2.5 times more cost-effective, although maybe it needs to have taken a few hundred militants out before you stop moaning about that side of things.

Anyway, your last point is wrong. One right decision doesn't mean total support -- and anyway whether his actions in Syria or Afghanistan were "right" is still open to question. Even if it were right to respond to Assad's use of chemical weapons, the speed of the decision still seems to me to show Trump in a bad light.

You can remove the "neo" part, though. He's just a con. Always has been.

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jim; //the Afghan bomb has risen to over 90, making it 2.5 times more cost-effective,//
and a similarly increased number of new recruits to isis ?

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