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Breast Surgeon Ian Paterson Case: 'hundreds' Of Other Victims
http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ news/uk -englan d-birmi ngham-3 9753498
This man may have had 100's of victims, even 1000's.
How on earth could he have got away with this for so long !
The mind boggles !
This man may have had 100's of victims, even 1000's.
How on earth could he have got away with this for so long !
The mind boggles !
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.I guess that they are the professional experts expected to act responsibly. There needs to be a better system for confirming suitability of treatments, and maybe a patient sign off when the system doesn't agree with an intended treatment. Will those affected be suing him personally or the private hospitals/NHS ?
Boggle no more !
read all abart it !
http:// www.hea rtofeng land.nh s.uk/wp -conten t/uploa ds/Kenn edy-Rep ort-Fin al.pdf
Solihull ( should that be wally-hull?) hired the famed Dr-hating Sir Ian Kennedy to do an axe job on the senior doctors and management at Solihull. yeah Wally-hull administrators hired Sir I Kay to do an axe job on their own hospital. Ian kennedy screamed: "where are my axes and bludgeons?" and set to with a determination beating down the trust offices doors whilst the admin whimpered - the wards are that way Sir Ian .....
report ....terrible mess - dead and dying admin all over the place.
yes he turned on the hands that fed him and had a good bite.
chunks of administrator meat hanging from the walls
blood on the carpet - lots of it !
torn blouses of secretaries ( secretaries still wearing them) - daubed with blood ! and gore !! .... spit as well
unintentional hilarity: dying bludgeoned medical director: you know as well as I do Sir Ian that the NHS is not blame-free....
Sir Ian [for it is he] writes : I was shocked I was truly shocked when I heard that . I know I got thro £60m of GMC money ( you didnt pay at all , taxpayer, that great lawyers' remuneration session did not cost you a penny!) on the Bristol Inquiry - the Great Blame and Shame Game - blaming well everyone ! but I did not expect to be confronted with the results of my own sins......blaah blaah blaah rubbish....rubbish rubbish ....
there is a lot of.... Sir Ian again....
Dr Wakeland, Gannon et al blew the whistle at regular intervals and nothing was done, and I was shocked truly shocked at how they didnt insist at regular intervals that their fears which had been ignored for years were taken into account by administrators who were themselves completely blameless.....[ except for the blameworthy ones of course]. There is even a fantasy bit where sir iam says that a doctor at another hospital should have raised concerns at his OWN hospital ( and not Ian P's). Dream on baby
read all about it yourselves
Sir Ian was parliamentary thingey when he recommended a 200% pay rise for his pay masters - the house of commons !
well he knows who's in charge - innit ?
Sir Ian - being many things but not a morbid pathologist - doesnt notice that Ian P takes out normal breasts (with his fantastic breast sparing mastectomies - which had NEVER been done before) I would call them lumpectomies but there you are - as Nigh would say: good for me !
and then with other women he did too small an excision
and left the margins with tumour in them
so if you audited tumour remnant - you would get a lowish figure - as some cases would be tunour clear -as they were normal anyway
if you measured mastectomy and reoperation - then that rate would be high but THAT was audited and complained .... and nothing done about it
and if you self-audit ( flavour of the month for the GMC) then as Sqad would confirm - any surgeon would find his results - Very Good Indeed. The GMC DID have Plan A - you audit each other - but was bluntly told that it was so boring an exercise that no one would do it. ( it is tedious enough doing it for ones own results)
and the Lawyers are calling for a full independent inquiry
well they would wouldnt they ?
read all abart it !
http://
Solihull ( should that be wally-hull?) hired the famed Dr-hating Sir Ian Kennedy to do an axe job on the senior doctors and management at Solihull. yeah Wally-hull administrators hired Sir I Kay to do an axe job on their own hospital. Ian kennedy screamed: "where are my axes and bludgeons?" and set to with a determination beating down the trust offices doors whilst the admin whimpered - the wards are that way Sir Ian .....
report ....terrible mess - dead and dying admin all over the place.
yes he turned on the hands that fed him and had a good bite.
chunks of administrator meat hanging from the walls
blood on the carpet - lots of it !
torn blouses of secretaries ( secretaries still wearing them) - daubed with blood ! and gore !! .... spit as well
unintentional hilarity: dying bludgeoned medical director: you know as well as I do Sir Ian that the NHS is not blame-free....
Sir Ian [for it is he] writes : I was shocked I was truly shocked when I heard that . I know I got thro £60m of GMC money ( you didnt pay at all , taxpayer, that great lawyers' remuneration session did not cost you a penny!) on the Bristol Inquiry - the Great Blame and Shame Game - blaming well everyone ! but I did not expect to be confronted with the results of my own sins......blaah blaah blaah rubbish....rubbish rubbish ....
there is a lot of.... Sir Ian again....
Dr Wakeland, Gannon et al blew the whistle at regular intervals and nothing was done, and I was shocked truly shocked at how they didnt insist at regular intervals that their fears which had been ignored for years were taken into account by administrators who were themselves completely blameless.....[ except for the blameworthy ones of course]. There is even a fantasy bit where sir iam says that a doctor at another hospital should have raised concerns at his OWN hospital ( and not Ian P's). Dream on baby
read all about it yourselves
Sir Ian was parliamentary thingey when he recommended a 200% pay rise for his pay masters - the house of commons !
well he knows who's in charge - innit ?
Sir Ian - being many things but not a morbid pathologist - doesnt notice that Ian P takes out normal breasts (with his fantastic breast sparing mastectomies - which had NEVER been done before) I would call them lumpectomies but there you are - as Nigh would say: good for me !
and then with other women he did too small an excision
and left the margins with tumour in them
so if you audited tumour remnant - you would get a lowish figure - as some cases would be tunour clear -as they were normal anyway
if you measured mastectomy and reoperation - then that rate would be high but THAT was audited and complained .... and nothing done about it
and if you self-audit ( flavour of the month for the GMC) then as Sqad would confirm - any surgeon would find his results - Very Good Indeed. The GMC DID have Plan A - you audit each other - but was bluntly told that it was so boring an exercise that no one would do it. ( it is tedious enough doing it for ones own results)
and the Lawyers are calling for a full independent inquiry
well they would wouldnt they ?
I am guessing J, that he is a bully, and bullies always get away with things, for a while anyway. But an Enquiry is urgently needed here....how many other Patersons are there ?
By the way, a couple of years ago, I read the following book about Shipman, and it made my blood run cold. Excellent read ::::
http:// www.goo dreads. com/boo k/show/ 1104176 .Prescr iption_ for_Mur der
Available second-hand very cheaply on ebay.
By the way, a couple of years ago, I read the following book about Shipman, and it made my blood run cold. Excellent read ::::
http://
Available second-hand very cheaply on ebay.
Cloverjo, there could be only one senior doctor at that meeting who says “I will do this” Other doctors will be junior to him/her and may not have the knowledge to contradict or may not want to risk their careers. My personal experience is that its very difficult indeed to get a senior doctor to intervene in a colleagues cases apart from getting a formal “second opinion” and in my husband’s case, the two doctors involved were both people of honour, integrity and good intent who knew and respected each other. One knew us very well and had been supporting my husband for some time, the other had never met us before, she was doing her best. The concern I was involved in btw was getting my husband home out of a filthy ward in a filthy hospital with staff who were not complying with basic hygiene and nothing to do with the actual medical care. I could easily see how a charming psychopathic surgeon could as he/she pleased for some time before getting caught.
Yeah they are called MDTs and work unevenly
You still go to Dr X or Mr Y on reputation and not because his or her MDT is good.
My own tmt for lymphoma started on day 56 - ( out of 60 which the govt limit) . I had been sent out with a normal scan when in fact there was a 15 cm tumour present with no follow up - but I came back ! an onco-fren' rang me and asked " do you want me to come over and tell them to start you on steroids? but honestly peter they should know that sort of thing"
( big thing about starting tmt without the diagnosis - but in fact they HAD the diagnosis. and I was already in a bad prognostic group)
oh and they were f+rting around with my HIV status - altho I had 50% CD4 cells which is incompatible with being HIV+ ( and they REALLY should have known that !)
the real problem was the consultant was retiring and had come back to do his own locum and had taken his eye off the ball.
[my brother had a fascinating conversation with him about lawn mowing in his gites in France... yeah whilst I was lying in a hospital bed croaking from lymphoma)
and are there power mad surgeons stalking the wards of country garden hospitals ? telling innocent saps they need his skills - especially if they have fat wallets ?
well you dont go to a surgeon unless you want one do you ?
er operation that is !
You still go to Dr X or Mr Y on reputation and not because his or her MDT is good.
My own tmt for lymphoma started on day 56 - ( out of 60 which the govt limit) . I had been sent out with a normal scan when in fact there was a 15 cm tumour present with no follow up - but I came back ! an onco-fren' rang me and asked " do you want me to come over and tell them to start you on steroids? but honestly peter they should know that sort of thing"
( big thing about starting tmt without the diagnosis - but in fact they HAD the diagnosis. and I was already in a bad prognostic group)
oh and they were f+rting around with my HIV status - altho I had 50% CD4 cells which is incompatible with being HIV+ ( and they REALLY should have known that !)
the real problem was the consultant was retiring and had come back to do his own locum and had taken his eye off the ball.
[my brother had a fascinating conversation with him about lawn mowing in his gites in France... yeah whilst I was lying in a hospital bed croaking from lymphoma)
and are there power mad surgeons stalking the wards of country garden hospitals ? telling innocent saps they need his skills - especially if they have fat wallets ?
well you dont go to a surgeon unless you want one do you ?
er operation that is !
because he's a doctor that is why he got away with it for so long. You put your trust in doctors don't you, but not all are our saviours, think of Shipman who killed many patients. This man had slipped the net any number of times, first working in one trust then moving onto another before finally being brought to book. The mind does indeed boggle.
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