Vile Tory Spin On Corbyn And ' Shoot To Kill '

[sunny-dave]

Let's be clear - the quotes now doing the rounds are from a news report TWO YEARS AGO which was SLAMMED AS INACCURATE by the BBC Trust.

The Tory spin doctors have shamefully used a terrorist attack for electoral advantage, by promoting the video through underhand 'social media' tactics.

This is the condemnation from the BBC Trust of the BBC's own lamentable journalism :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38666914

Last night Jeremy Corbyn ACTUALLY said :

"Police must have “full authority” to use “whatever force is necessary to protect and save life.”

[Baldric]

As Election Day approaches Corbin sympathisers begin to display signs of desperation.

[Kromovaracun]

Are the Tory supporters here happy with how that party treats disabled people? Specifically how thousands of people have died within two weeks of being found "fit to work" in the past few years by the corrupt DWP? Or the way that the bedroom tax has hit 420,000 disbled people whose "spare "rooms are used for medical equipment? Or the slashing of PIP by a third? Are they happy with the way that senior Tories (including Phillip May) make profit from public sector work being outsourced? Or their seizure of mobility scooters from people who need them? Are they happy with the deliberate saddling of the NHS with unpayable levels of debt in the last 5 years? Are they happy with unnecessary and ideologically-motivated cuts to security services? Are they happy with the government's commitment to censor the internet?

I suspect not, but for your own reasons you choose to vote Tory because you believe it's in the best interests of the country.

Labour voters do just the same. You think we're ignorant of the party's shortcomings? Of course we're not. Just as I'd suspect you aren't ignorant of your "side's" failures and abuses. But our "democracy" only gives us two choices, and as citizens we have to make a call on what we think the net positive might be. Get off your high horses and accept that maybe, just maybe, people exist who have different priorities to you.

[douglas9401]

The worst thing about this kind of stuff is that Labour and Tory will kick, bite, gouge, spit, kick, claw and scream like banshees in the interest of getting power then when they do they haven't a clue what to do with it.
They're useless to a man and woman but strut about as if they're the dog's.
Utterly without talent, ideas or substance.

[THECORBYLOON]

KROMO, you may want to read this link about the ESA claim, https://fullfact.org/economy/reporting-fit-work-deaths-isnt-fit-purpose/

[sunny-dave]

What an incisive and interesting post, Balders - and such a wealth of backup evidence too - good to read such well structured arguments rather than the usual name-calling.

I'd have a rest now - you must be exhausted ...

[Baldric]

Whatever ;o)

[sunny-dave]

Krom - there are one or two on here who admit to voting for Mrs May with their fingers pinching their noses shut - but precious few will come clean.

Whereas I see most of the 'red brigade' happy to say that Corbyn is a curate's egg of a leader and his party is not perfect either - but on balance it's the best option.

It's ironic that the most blinkered Tories are the ones who are happiest to ascribe "voting for a donkey with a red rosette" behaviours to anyone who is on the other side.

[MargoTester]

Dave - I very rarely post in news, although I read most of it, but i am interested to know why in view of you being so pro-Labour you decided to vote Green. I know you said your Do not think much of your MP but would have thought every vote, for whichever Party you support, is vital.

[ToraToraTora]

Talking of back up evidence SD I'm still waiting for you to tell me what this has to do with the Tories.

[Jackdaw33]

I am happy for it to be known that I vote Tory and I don't have to hold my nose when doing so.

[Baldric]

I'll sign up to that
//I vote Tory and I don't have to hold my nose when doing so//
and that I don't feel the need to resort to sarcasm either.

[ToraToraTora]

I have always voted Tory, it's the only sensible choice.

[kvalidir]

You Tory souls wretchedly grasping at straws about Jeremy Corbyn's so called IRA sympathies, do you not realise that it's actually the Tories who have an elected councillor who used to be a Provisional IRA MEMBER. Her name is Maria Gatland ( formerly MaGuire) and she is councillor for Croyden and in 2009 when the press discovered her background she was shadow Education member. The Tories were fully aware of her past, have stuck by her and she remains Councillor for Croyden- so why not get your own house in order before you start jumping up and down about other peoples?

[cassa333]

What did I miss? What has a Tory said that makes a Labourite want them suspended?

[ToraToraTora]

one lowly councillor v Leader of the opposition, the latter hoping to be PM on Thursday. They are comparable are they? right oh!Standard Left wing illogic! How long did it take you to trawl that one out? PMSL

[Kromovaracun]

Well, it's also words vs actions - Corbyn never involved himself in the armed struggle whereas she did.

Neither one has much bearing on the next five years though.

[ToraToraTora]

Still waiting for someone to tell me what the original post has got to do with the Tories, It's BBC as far as I can tell. Still Labour supporters, the masters of spin eh?

[Kromovaracun]

//I have always voted Tory, it's the only sensible choice//

Did you vote Tory when Labour were the Tories or when the Tories were Labour?

[Kromovaracun]

It's relevant because the Tories have used this clip in their election materials over the past week.

[sunny-dave]

Margo - my seat is a safe Tory one - after a squalid deal with UKIP the sitting Tory MP will get around 60% of the vote. Any vote for an opposing party is (under our daft electoral system) just so much waste paper.

Thus I can indulge myself in voting for the best local person and encourage an effective and personable Green candidate, rather than the lacklustre Labour chap.