Labour To Remove Benefits Cap.

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40397875
Why do they always want to give our hard earned to work shy layabouts?

[Togo]

//The ruling was made in response to a judicial review brought by four lone parent families - including two who had been made homeless owing to domestic violence. Their solicitor said their benefits were, or were expected to be, cut as they were unable to work the 16 hours.//

From "a link" within the op link. I suppose that, if they are getting above "average wage" benefits, it will dissuade the violent.

[mikey4444]

YMB ....we have no idea of the status of these people, although instinct tells me that some, at least will be layabouts, if the evidence on my own housing estate is anything to go by.

[jambutty]

Probably so ymb, but some do desperately need it.

[mikey4444]

Single parents win benefits cap High Court challenge :::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40367686

[Old_Geezer]

I reckon there will need to be "exceptions" in the process. One can, through no fault of one's own, experience changes to one's life that leaves one with a greater (financial) commitment/responsibility to others that one could expect to earn as income. The principle that one should not be better off out of work is fair enough, but situations need to be individually looked at.

[mikey4444]

Common sense OG !

[ToraToraTora]

mikey; "Single parents with a child under two have won a court challenge as they face "real misery" from the government's benefits cap" - how can a single parent with one child get anywhere near the cap? It's the second generation, never had a job, never contributed, Labour core vote, baby factories with 10 kids that get near that.

[mikey4444]

TTT...just pointing out the latest news, that was contained in your OP.

By the way, I am not happy with the way that some people can live on benefits all their lives, as many previous pots from me will attest.

[ToraToraTora]

well perhaps they have some time on their hands to whine about the cap on behalf of those affected by it currently or perhaps they are going to have many more kids so they are anticipating the future for themselves. Either way it's work shy career scroungers we are talking about. You say you are not happy that people scrounge their whole lives yet you do not support the cap, odd!

[naomi24]

Mikey, // I am not happy with the way that some people can live on benefits all their lives, as many previous pots from me will attest.//

Best not vote Labour then. They're all for it.

[jim360]

I can understand the general principle that being in work should be better-rewarded than not being -- but then again maybe there will come a point where that's simply unsustainable as an attitude -- but wouldn't it largely be better achieved by improving the lot of those in work*, rather than "punishing" those out of work? It depends on the circumstances of the person in question.

And besides, the benefits cap also hits those in work, but receiving eg Housing Benefits in particular, so the idea that the cap only affects "work shy layabouts" is grossly unfair.

*Yes, I appreciate that the current government has pushed through planned rises to the minimum wage (now Living wage; somewhat odd from a party that barely a decade ago was opposed utterly to the principle, but welcome all the same). Wages have generally stagnated in the last few years overall, though -- and that's not just down to the 2007 crash either, as they were starting to rise again in 2015/16.

[ToraToraTora]

jim who, possibly, is working and still getting 20k in benefits? They'd have to have about 15 kids and earn two bob an hour!

[jim360]

Well the cap as a whole only affects around 33,000 families, apparently, so not all that many people (source: Daily Mail 2014). Most of those are in London. All things considered, it could just as well be called a sort of "London Tax".

[trt]

Just a con to get lazy bustards to vote for them!

Ch5 will be happy though, they can make more cheap programmes about people on the Dole, benefits etc.

[jan1956]

What about the WASPI women who have lost pensions thos of us born in 50s who cannot get pension and WE HAVE paid into the system never mind giving more benefits

[ToraToraTora]

how will a cap effect you jan?

[jan1956]

it is not the cap but if they are removing the caps, i guess more money will go to people on benefits, my point is us ladies born in the 50s have contributed but now have to work a further 6 years before we can get our pensions, little notice was given about this. think they could consider lowering pension age before giving out more benefits

[Jackdaw33]

What is WASPI?

[Mamyalynne]

WASPI - Women Against State Pension Inequality.

[FlyofTheEarth]

Op, don't you think that it was rather juvenile for you to delete my post?-If it was you that was-All I said was that not everyone on disabilities is attempting to cheat the system. People like you most likely buy into the Tory propaganda that you hear in The Sun such as people on benefits are swimming in the money.