Society & Culture4 mins ago
Should Britain Pay €100 Billion Divorce Bill?
or should Theresa simply walk away?
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No one thought the EU would just move on. There were negotiations for the future to be held. But few could have figured that they'd have the gall to act as badly as they seem to be. And one had hoped that remainers would act as honourably as leavers but there are a rump trying to be a pain. But that doesn't make it complex. Just some side issue to deal with.
Lest we forget, Britain is already paying an annual membership fee to the EU of £13.1 billion of which it gets back only £4.6 billion, so the net contribution (2016 figures) is £8.6 billion this will obviously be paid during the 2 year exit process, so the total amount the EU would receive from the UK taxpayers if this was paid would be an eye-watering, £117.2 billion
I can't speak for others but you won't find any posts on here of me saying I don't accept the decision. That, in no way, precludes me from commenting when people (usually leave voters) moan about how complex it is. It was always going to be. Complaining only serves to prove my oft made point that many leave voters did so without full realisation of this.
Zacs, I might not find posts from you saying you don’t accept the decision but by the same token I’ve seen none from you condemning the actions of the Remainers who are doing their utmost to disrupt the process. No surprise that those who voted ‘Leave’ and actually won the vote are complaining. It’s justified.
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The essence of Karl’s point cuts through every other post, and every single piece of journalistic comment on the issue – we don’t know what is going to happen.
Everything the papers, and the government say, is etirely speculation, so there is no point considering this rumour or that – the negotiations are barely under way.
What we need to do is remember that key word – negotiations – and the essence of that concept is that neither side reveals its full position from the start. They reveal bit by bit as they both start from opposite sides of the outcome – millions in payments from them, no trade at all from us unless it’s free – and we meet in the middle with some give and take from both sides.
Until then, everyone is whistling in the dark – it’s a waste of time, but it keeps journalists in a job, and it sells papers – but, and this is the point – everyone is making it up.
Let’s wait and see what the reality is, instead of dreaming up notions and then getting het up as though they are happening tomorrow.
Everything the papers, and the government say, is etirely speculation, so there is no point considering this rumour or that – the negotiations are barely under way.
What we need to do is remember that key word – negotiations – and the essence of that concept is that neither side reveals its full position from the start. They reveal bit by bit as they both start from opposite sides of the outcome – millions in payments from them, no trade at all from us unless it’s free – and we meet in the middle with some give and take from both sides.
Until then, everyone is whistling in the dark – it’s a waste of time, but it keeps journalists in a job, and it sells papers – but, and this is the point – everyone is making it up.
Let’s wait and see what the reality is, instead of dreaming up notions and then getting het up as though they are happening tomorrow.
9.6 Billion Euros as "contributions" to British Eurocrats's pensions. Just about says it all. Plus 27.4 Billion Euros for European farmers in 2019 and 2020. Haha they want us to subsidise their fat cat farmers to mainly not grow anything. Then 36.2 Billion Euros towards future commitments to build roads and railways, (not yet built) that we are to help finance. Are these the roads and railways that were to be used to send the immigrants in a nice efficient manner to the UK? Tell em to go forth and multiply.
A democratic vote being thwarted you say.
We're surely used to fly-by-night politicians telling us one thing and doing the other after a vote.
Most manifesto promises are in fact lies or misinformation designed to attract votes and secure political careers.
This is just the latest in a long tale of lies and deception from those who lord it over us so why should any of it be any different?
When the cabbage patch doll threw his toys from the pram and set the ball rolling, towering public figures like Farage, Johnson, Gove, Davies and on and on lied, blatantly, and got us into a dogs breakfast of trying to do a deal with already sneaky, two-faced continental articles and their new mates who are easily bought for a few baubles so let's all just calm down a wait to see what our great thinkers can do with the shiteheap they've created.
We're surely used to fly-by-night politicians telling us one thing and doing the other after a vote.
Most manifesto promises are in fact lies or misinformation designed to attract votes and secure political careers.
This is just the latest in a long tale of lies and deception from those who lord it over us so why should any of it be any different?
When the cabbage patch doll threw his toys from the pram and set the ball rolling, towering public figures like Farage, Johnson, Gove, Davies and on and on lied, blatantly, and got us into a dogs breakfast of trying to do a deal with already sneaky, two-faced continental articles and their new mates who are easily bought for a few baubles so let's all just calm down a wait to see what our great thinkers can do with the shiteheap they've created.
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