Victor Orban, A Leader Of Conviction And Courage.

[Khandro]

Would you not agree?

[david small]

I would agree. Action NOW not words, and yet more words.

[Gromit]

Just amother tinpot dictator, apparently.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/hello-dictator-hungary-orban-viktor-119125

[naomi24]

Khandro, Yes, I would agree.

[sp1814]

Khandro

You will get more responses to your questions if you would summarise content.

This clip lasts over eight minutes, and whilst that's a lot less than the pro-Trump hour long clip you posted recently, it's still a fair chunk of time, which means that it cannot be easily argued, because there are so many points to cover.

If you posted some of the things he's said so that responders could discuss them, and then posted the link to the video that would make for a better thread.

[Khandro]

SP; There is no compulsion to watch it all - (though 8 minutes seems hardly a great commitment).
Like any video, I suggest you watch a minute or two and if you don't like or understand the content, then simply switch it off.
Orban speaks for his country and Europe in a clear forthright manner which is badly needed at this time, a refreshing alternative to his mealy mouthed, confused and PC hidebound EU contemporaries.

[naomi24]

People are often reluctant to watch more than a couple of minutes of videos posted here, so if you want to generate discussion a short synopsis never goes amiss. However, in this instance a couple of minutes watching suffices to convey the overall content of the video.

[fender62]

i agree with him

[Togo]

This speech is eloquent and precise, it asks the questions that our politicians dare not. Listen to it before comment and criticism. I would bet that there are some who would gladly listed to the opposing view without demur for 8 minutes. You cannot condemn a question because You may dislike the obvious answer.................can You?

[youngmafbog]

Well there is someone in Europe that gets it.

It's an excellent speech, well thought out and delivered. In English too!

[Togo]

There will be no Winged Hussars to save Europe this time.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//There will be no Winged Hussars to save Europe this time.//

Sadly not. No Christian coalitions today of the sort that won at Lepanto and Vienna. Even if Vienna (and Europe) still had gates there would be no Western European leader with the will to defend them.

[sp1814]

Togo

Not a condemnation of a question. A suggestion.

The number of responses to the thread suggest that whether people admire or reject Orban, taking time out of their day to watch a video of him isn't an attractive proposition.

Also, like newspaper articles posted in links, AB News contributors tend to read the whole lot (couple of minutes) before posting. There's little point in just watching the first couple of minutes of a video 'to get the gist'.

//I would bet that there are some who would gladly listed [sic] to the opposing view without demur for 8 minutes.//

Absolutely.

[Togo]

Enough said sp. Listed was not a typo. :)) Although it may have made some sick. It does not matter whether there are any "replies", countering the premise, in fact the lack of them, suggests that they with an opposing view will need some time to "googley" up a response that opposes it. The time it took you to read through the thread and think of a belated reply, to me personally, is less than the time required to listen to the address. Point.

[Togo]

Unless of course you did listen and have no "answer" to the points and concerns raised by Mr Orban. :))

[ichkeria]

Victor Orban:
Well I thought I would ask a Hungarian friend of mine who is a lovely lady with only of the smartest 9 year olds I've ever met.
I'll just quote her words:
"He is an idiot. I am ashamed of him"
Disgracefully all her friends in Budapest are of the same opinion
I guess they just don't "get it" :-)

[vetuste_ennemi]

//...Hungarian friend of mine who is a lovely lady with only of the smartest 9 year olds I've ever met.
//

What a clever refutation of the point.

No arguing with brilliance like that, is there?

[Togo]

//I thought I would ask a Hungarian friend of mine who is a lovely lady with only of the smartest 9 year olds I've ever met.
I'll just quote her words:
"He is an idiot. I am ashamed of him"//

Just the one then? Has the child watched the speech, or indeed her? Are they still allowed to in Hungary? Intolerance of freedom of thought and speech is on the march once again throughout central Europe. Perhaps "she" thinks that you are an informer so cannot talk freely. :))

[Togo]

Snap V. E. :))

[ichkeria]

There are (at least) two sides to every argument.
Just saying :-)

[vetuste_ennemi]

Two sides? Yes, of course.

Then argue the side you're on.

"Orban is a fool/xenophobe/racist" is not an argument.

"People who listen to Orban are fools/xenophobes/racists" is not an argument.