a) Confiscate their non towing motors
b) move them on instantly
c) sell sell afore mentioned motors to cover the costs.
If all the UK councils then used those powers, pretty soon they'd have to join the human race or Foxtrot oscar out of the country. Don't tell me, kin oooman writes!
meet aggression with aggression..no compromise..only way imo... no sensible discussion works.. no reasonable dialogue..allowing them to settle results in months of paperwork..visits...and always with destruction of property and huge clean up bill..notwithstanding the trouble caused to local business etc...
meet aggression with aggression..no compromise..only way imo... no sensible discussion works.. no reasonable dialogue..allowing them to settle results in months of paperwork..visits...and always with destruction of property and huge clean up bill..notwithstanding the trouble caused to local business etc...
I'm not sticking up for travellers but your solution is just too simplistic.
The police/riot squad can't just wade into a site which has pregnant women, babies and toddlers. That's before you take into account the animals and the guns!
Yes MM, I yearn for the day when government is cleared of do gooding liberals and we can solve problems like this how they should be solved rather than having vermin running round above the law for all intents and purposes. BA, so far, though I may have to reassign if a better one comes along!
"The police/riot squad can't just wade into a site which has pregnant women, babies and toddlers. That's before you take into account the animals and the guns! " - why not? If the travellers care about their own then they would behave sensibly at the first approach. In reality it would be rare once the law is changed. Think it though ummmm, what's your solution then? do nothing I suppose!
I know of a council which uses a very simple method of moving the travellers on, whenever they move onto a site, council officials arrive with a lorry carrying large concrete blocks. The travellers are given an hour to move on or they will be blocked in, so far all have moved on.
Civilised society is where civilised people live. Find these uncivilised groups a nice little island somewhere to exist & as 3Ts says if they come back throw the book at 'em.
If we were to adopt your ideas TTT how would we define 'traveller'?
In my mind it is impossible to define it in such a way that the legislation could not be used to 'remove' anyone who did not have a permanent non mobile home.
We would be able to force people off mobile home sites and holiday caravan parks, ban caravan and motor home owners from stopping overnight or even to rest for a while.
Laws once enacted get abused, the law that allowed the government to confiscate the passports of football hooligans to prevent them travelling to overseas matches has been abused. Non football supporters have been refused travel under it!
You're acting like AOG and purposely misunderstanding.
The council can't just wade into a site...they don't know who they are dealing with. Nor do the police. These people are often very violent and often own various arms. There are also lots of children.
I said in an earlier post....A whole town in Ireland shut up shop when they arrive.
They are not wanted and not welcomed in most cases...and I back that.
Having helped clear up when we eventually got rid of a group of travellers who invaded our village, I would support any proposal to stop them. They respect no one and nothing. Disgusting people.
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