That Gender Couple Are On

[trt]

this morning now

[ToraToraTora]

fair enough jim but do you not see the analogy? It's like being a Football supporter among the fans of the opposing team, it should not matter but that is cold comfort when they are kicking your head in. I'd hope to change that but in the mean time we must acknowledge the reality.

[trt]

## Glad to see you've amended your choice of words Trt. ##

News to me, Where have I done that kval?

[Mamyalynne]

I believe that to refer to the unpleasant wording used in your last thread on this family.

[ummmm]

trt - you called them disgusting yesterday!

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Seems a bit mean to just shunt them to one side and pretend that their right to self-identity be trampled all over.//

I don't want to trample over anybody's "right to self-identity" - live and let live say I (like most conservatives). At the same time I don't want these people forcing me to share their delusion. Which is what the fascist left is doing in Canada with bill C-16 and, no doubt, will be attempting here shortly.

By the way, anybody been following the Dr. Jordan Peterson affair?

[jim360]

I can't say what it would have been like at primary school, but I do think that you are giving changing attitudes not enough credit.

I do recognise that the child could have a rough time, but as long as the school supports him, and tackles any bullying that does occur promptly, then it might not be so bad as you imagine.

Alternatively, as you can also get bullied for wearing glasses, liking mayonnaise with chips, wearing Postman Pat leggings, and pretty much anything else under the Sun... it's almost impossible to avoid bullying anyway. So you may as well just be yourself.

[ToraToraTora]

"but as long as the school supports him, and tackles any bullying that does occur promptly, then it might not be so bad as you imagine. " - have a day off jim the school don't give a rat's plaster, they have no powers anyway lest little angels parents troop up the school and beat up the teacher. Stand on me this kid has a lot of misery ahead. End of.

[ToraToraTora]

"you can also get bullied for wearing glasses, liking mayonnaise with chips, wearing Postman Pat leggings, and pretty much anything else under the Sun.." - yes but none of that is as Juicy as Lesbian mum and a transgender mum/dad! like I said in the other thread, poor little sod.

[ummmm]

Another hysterical post, TTT.

Most schools do deal with bullying!

[jim360]

It hurts just as much, though. Bullies don't need any excuse, if they are going to bully. So you can't hide from it. And, in the end, you shouldn't hide from it either.

[ToraToraTora]

no hysterical ummmm, get your head out of the sand, here's one of many: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/boy-dubbed-most-hated-person-8982884
You seem to live in some idylic dream word, wake up.

[Mamyalynne]

It's true that not all Schools do enough to prevent bullying nor do all Parents.

[Khandro]

If you think he won't get bullied, you are fooling only yourselves. My two daughters at school in England were called 'Nazis' because their mother was German ( I only found out about it later) but the son of one of them (my grandson) has also been called a Nazi because his mother is half-German and he has been for many holidays to Germany.

With parents like this little boy has at the school gate, he doesn't have a chance.

[vetuste_ennemi]

// My two daughters at school in England were called 'Nazis' because their mother was German//

According to several people on AB who have excellent judgment in these matters their father is a Nazi too, Khandro.

A double whammy for the poor girls.

[jim360]

I'm not sure that anyone has said that the child won't be bullied; but it's also true that the risk of being bullied shouldn't be an excuse to suppress who he naturally is as a person; and the bullying itself can, hopefully, be dealt with as and when it arises, or combatted by proper advice given to the children before and after.

Or, to put it another way, if you are going to try and reduce bullying then you should try to deal with the bullies, not coddle away the victims.

[Mamyalynne]

Bullies will aim for what they perceive to be your weakest spot, they're only out to achieve kudos with their cronies.

[Khandro]

v_e; :0) We were in a sort of middle to lower middle class area too.
I think I can say with confidence though, that had we brought them up in Germany, the fact that they had and English dad wouldn't have amounted to the proverbial hill of beans. Wonder if it's an English thing, it seems to go on in all schools , public and state.

[jim360]

No, I'm pretty that bullying isn't an exclusively English phenomenon.

[trt]

### trt - you called them disgusting yesterday! ###

Oh that..... Its my opinion Ummmm, & I still stand by it!

[ToraToraTora]

they are disgusting for the torture they are going to inflict on that child. if our social services had a clue they'd rescue the poor little sod.