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sp1814 | 18:07 Wed 23rd Aug 2017 | News
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The Met Police have tweeted about a heroin drugs bust in Catford, linking it to the Notting Hill Carnival.

Stormy (a British grime artist) has hit back claiming that this has nothing to do with the Carnival, and goes on to say that the same doesn't happen before other festivals.

Has he got a point?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/stormzy-notting-hill-police-drugs-tweet-criticism-black-event-a7907551.html

I ask, because this year, at Glastonbury, visitors can bring their coke, pills and whatever to an onsite testing lab to verify the grade of drugs they are about to consume.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36881070/first-ever-festival-to-test-users-drugs

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/36881070/first-ever-festival-to-test-users-drugs

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By the way, Stormzy is a British rapper, like Tinie Tempah. And 'grime' is a genre of music that emerged in London in the early 2000s.

It developed out of earlier UK electronic music styles, including UK garage and jungle, and draws influence from dancehall, ragga and later hip hop.

(from Wikipedia)
No, 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Looks like he's a bit upset that plod has taken some of the steam tugs they had prepped for the Notting Hill Crimathon
Yes, he has a point. It looks very like the Met have just lumped together a number of various busts, and hung them on the carnival as a way of getting interest from the news organisations. Most of the busts had nowt to do with the carnival, and most were from areas well away from Notting Hill.
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Thanks for your answer, but does he have a point?

Why are drug testing labs set up at Glastonbury?

If the same were to happen at the NHC, there would be an outcry surely?

Also, the odd thing is - heroin. That's literally the last drug that people take at the Carnival.
this is from 2016.

Rather than answer this sliver of delusional idiocy myself, I’ll leave it to Ken Marsh, chairman of the Police Federation:

‘Last year we had an officer stabbed. This year colleagues were assaulted, abused and spat at. How can that be right? It’s completely and utterly unacceptable.
‘The Glastonbury music festival had 40 arrests this year. Notting Hill had 10 times that amount.
‘Year after year there are such high levels of violence against police officers and the public at the carnival. And yet year after year nothing changes. Something needs to be done.’
Thank you, Ken. I think that puts it in perspective. Glastonbury – 40 arrests across a week, mainly for drugs offences. Notting Hill Carnival – 454 arrests across two days, 43 officers injured and eight taken to hospital, five members of the public stabbed. Oh, and while we’re on the subject: Cost of Glastonbury to the taxpayer – almost nothing. Cost of the carnival to the taxpayer – at least £7m.

Nice post Webbo.
Forced to make a choice.... would you take your Grandchildren to Glastonbury or the Notting Hill "celebration". Answers on a racecard to....................?
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How many officers from the Somerset drugs squad were at Glastonbury?

What do you think would happen if one year, they descended on the place with sniffer dogs?
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Togo

Lots of avoidance here...at Glastonbury, there's going to be a tent that middle class smackheads can bring their coke to, to verify its strength.

Imagine the furore if the same were to be deployed at the NHC.

What is your comment on that?
If 'Front of House' testing is good enough for one gig, it should be for all.
It's because Notting Hill punters are predominantly black and Glastonbury white.

There, next.
//It's because Notting Hill punters are predominantly black and Glastonbury white. //

Change "punters" to "victims" and you are getting near Douglas. :))
sp1814 - //Why are drug testing labs set up at Glastonbury? //

Because Glastonbury are developing an adult attitude to drugs, and their users.

The entire issue with illegal drugs is that no-one knows exactly what is in them - which can affect any user who may get a higher dose than they are able to handle, or a dose cut with any kind of poisons used to dilute the drug and up the profit.

As a society, we don't have a choice about people using drugs, the continual abysmal failure of the costly 'War On Drugs' proves that on a daily basis.

The choice you do have, it so try and keep people safe, which is what Glastonbury is doing, and their approach should be rolled out nationwide, instead of society pretending that drugs are only for nasty lowlifes, and they deserve what they get.

Do I wish people didn't take drugs? Of course I do, I wish they didn't drink alcohol as well, but we are where we are.

People are going to put things into their bodies that are potentially harmful to them. We can either grow up and start saving the NHS millions by testing, and keeping people out of hospital, or we can pretend that drugs are simply a nasty by-product of feckless 'young people', and wring our hands and do nothing effective, which has been the approach of governments for the last fifty years.

I dream of a day when politicians will wake up and realise that a 'war on drugs' is vastly expensive, and completely futile, and start approaching the issues from a realistic position.
My thoughts is that when a carnival unintentionally offers an opportunity to drug deal and is being used as such, it is just making excuses to claim no link. That drugs are sold/used at other events too doesn't make it ok at the carnival. It just shows the situation isn't unique. One wonders why anyone would encourage a "head in the sand" attitude to the subject.
My mate got taken away by security at Glastonbury for smoking weed. Then the police turned up wanting to search all our tents. They didn't search them in the end though.

I think that might have been the year they tried to crack down on drugs but they just gave up!!

NHC & Glastonbury are two totally different events and two different plods. Any argument trying to use a comparison falls down immediately.
The festival testing labs are a great idea. I took all my drugs to one of them and they confirmed it was good 5h1t and I hadn't been ripped off. It's good to have that peace of mind.
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Shouldn't the policing of drug consumption be the same?

Ideally yes, in reality different crimes have different priorities in different areas.
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//W webbo3

How many officers from the Somerset drugs squad were at Glastonbury?

What do you think would happen if one year, they descended on the place with sniffer dogs?//

How many police have been attacked at Glastonbury?

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