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Enter Nigel Farage, Stage Right. ?
With Labour a complete shambles, isn't it time for Nigel Farage to return to the fray?
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Remove the four impostitions and we can opt to remain in both. But if the EU even approached that level of reasonableness we'd not have decided we had to leave. You can see what an awkward bunch they still are; trying to delay or stop progress by insisting on sorting exit terms and their mugging demand before getting on with the important stuff. Then cynically claiming and hoping to persuade the gullible that the lack of progress is down to the UK and not them. You couldn't make it up for a fiction tale and expect people to swallow it. Only in the EU.
Geezer, and after using the delaying tactic you speak of ,the Pyramid schemers then have the audacity to complain that things are taking too long to sort out. Then when presented with a raft of proposals, complain that things are being hurried. You have the measure of the self serving liars. Respect.
“As a point of clarity - Labour are proposing to keep Britain in the EU’s single market and customs union.
Can anyone explain why these are bad ideas?”
The single market is not all it’s cracked up to be and the customs union is simply a protectionist scheme which prevents its members from acting in their best interests. However, that is not the point.
“I can understand Brexiters wanting to wrest control from Brussels over border control and EU laws”
Then what you seem not to understand is that membership of the two institutions you mention necessarily dictates that members succumb to the authority of the European Court of Justice and accept the free movement of people. There is no way round this. If the “negotiations” continued for a hundred years there would be no way that the Euromaniacs would allow membership of two of their most precious creations without the encumberances that go with them. People who voted to leave voted to be rid of those entanglements. They cannot expect to keep the (supposedly) good bits and ditch the bad and in reality none of them with any sense of realism believes that they can. It is only (some) politicians and some Remainers who expect that.
“…(and to a lesser degree, the ECHR)…”
The ECHR has nothing to do with the EU and our leaving will have no influence on the UK being a signatory.
(and to a lesser degree, the ECHR) - but what is so bad about being part of a massive trading bloc and free trade agreement.
Can anyone explain why these are bad ideas?”
The single market is not all it’s cracked up to be and the customs union is simply a protectionist scheme which prevents its members from acting in their best interests. However, that is not the point.
“I can understand Brexiters wanting to wrest control from Brussels over border control and EU laws”
Then what you seem not to understand is that membership of the two institutions you mention necessarily dictates that members succumb to the authority of the European Court of Justice and accept the free movement of people. There is no way round this. If the “negotiations” continued for a hundred years there would be no way that the Euromaniacs would allow membership of two of their most precious creations without the encumberances that go with them. People who voted to leave voted to be rid of those entanglements. They cannot expect to keep the (supposedly) good bits and ditch the bad and in reality none of them with any sense of realism believes that they can. It is only (some) politicians and some Remainers who expect that.
“…(and to a lesser degree, the ECHR)…”
The ECHR has nothing to do with the EU and our leaving will have no influence on the UK being a signatory.
(and to a lesser degree, the ECHR) - but what is so bad about being part of a massive trading bloc and free trade agreement.
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