Blackpool Couple Shot Children As Punishment For Not Doing Chores

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-41160213

This is unbelievable !

I hope that the kids are now being looked after by normal people.

[ChillDoubt]

Tilly,
Step dad was a miner for 37, first demanding occupation that used to involve children I thought of.

[ChillDoubt]

*37 years

[anotheoldgit]

/// Because the father was the primary aggressor and the mother, hopefully under the watchful eye of a variety of support services, will be able to keep the children together and out of the 'Care' system. ///

I can't believe I have just read that, it is amazing how you are prepared to defend this person, just because see happens to be a fellow female.

/// And the mother, hopefully????????????

Hopefully given her record who would be prepared to take the risk of letting this evil mother take charge of any innocent and defenceless children again?

*** Both parents pleaded guilty to five counts of child cruelty ***

Both equally pleaded guilty!!!!!!

*** The court was told that the father did most of the shooting and kept the gun down the side of the sofa, but his wife would take over if he was not at home. ***

That was so supporting of her towards beloved partner, wasn't it? Never mind the poor children?

[jackthehat]

///I can't believe I have just read that, it is amazing how you are prepared to defend this person, just because see happens to be a fellow female.///

I didn't defend her, I merely communicated to you the likely reasons why she didn't receive a custodial sentence.

[sunny-dave]

I can't believe I'm typing this ... but ...

"I agree with AoG"

As happens all too often, the woman has been presumed to be 'under the influence of the man' rather than an equally malevolent apology for a human being - and has been punished inadequately (to be polite).

The concept that she should stay out of prison to enable the family to stay together is laughable.

[Barmaid]

I cant say either way, but remember all we have to go on is the barest press reports. The best thing to look at is the sentencing remarks.

[jackthehat]

///The judge said there was a distinction between the gravity of offending between the parents and noted the father had a lengthy criminal record while the mother had never previously been before the courts.

Read more at: http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/news/crime/parents-who-shot-their-kids-with-a-bb-gun-sentenced-1-8737060

[Barmaid]

^^^^ and that is a good one for starters...

[sunny-dave]

Indeed JtH - I'd seen that - but the previous paragraph says :

"This was the behaviour of people who had developed a system, a regime of discipline, that involved this form of violence"

I note the word 'people' not 'a person' and am surprised that only one of them seemed to merit a custodial sentence - but not *very* surprised given the inbuilt bias of the judicial system against imprisoning women for offences that would automatically see a man in prison.

[Cloverjo]

I don't know all the facts of the case, and I'm not defending either parent for what they did, but given how badly children in care do in life perhaps it would be better for them to stay with a flawed mother rather than try their chances in care.

[anneasquith]

Had a cat or dog been shot with this type of gun many more people would be " up in arms" the sentencing is woeful. Maybe NJ or anyone could inform me if NJ was " joking" with their post, thanks .

[-Talbot-]

She shot her kids on a regular basis ... she should have gone to prison.

[Peter Pedant]

// Their punishments were far too lenient. They should have both gone to prison for a considerable stretch. Sickos.//

jesus I thought she meant the kids' punishments
sozza - having a bad sight day

[Tilly2]

Chill, I apologise. I thought you were implying that colliers would be the sort of people to mis -treat their children. I'm sorry. I read it wrongly.

[marval]

This is a horrific story, I hope the kids can get over all that.

[ChillDoubt]

No need to apologise Tilly, no offence was taken.

[murraymints]

OMG !

[andy-hughes]

jack - //I can't believe I have just read that, it is amazing how you are prepared to defend this person, just because see happens to be a fellow female. //

I have to post my admiration at the restraint you showed in responding to the above post which is as conclusion-jumping as it is inaccurate, as it is offensive.

[New Judge]

To be fair, Andy, you jumped to the conclusion earlier in this question that I was being sarcastic.

[andy-hughes]

New Judge - // To be fair, Andy, you jumped to the conclusion earlier in this question that I was being sarcastic. //

That's dodgy, and most unlike you NJ.

There are two posters referenced here - one is known to be shrewd, informed, measured, and it seems, sarcastic, the other is opinionated, judgemental, aggressive, and prone to see things in posts that are simply not there.

I am willing to stand on my assessment - that I judged both correctly, based on their previous records.