Do You Agree With Rees-Mogg That Abortion Even After A Woman Has Been Raped Is Morally Indefensible?

[sp1814]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jacob-rees-mogg-abortion-oppose-pro-life-catholic-conservative-mp-tory-woman-raped-leader-a7931651.html

I can understand why he believes this as he was brought up as a strict Catholic ("life is life"), but I can't agree with him - even the morning after pill would be a no no to him.

How do you feel?

[anotheoldgit]

/// It sort of does, because it's an issue he would be in charge of enforcing the law on. ///

It is not the PMs job to enforce the law or even to make it, any change in law must first go through Parliament and the House of Lords.

[gulliver1]

Cloverjo, 10.16 and this is the man who is thinking of throwing his hat in the ring to be the next leader of the CON party . OMG.

[Lie-in King]

I can't agree with him on this issue.

[Kromovaracun]

//It is not the PMs job to enforce the law or even to make it, any change in law must first go through Parliament and the House of Lords.//

Government bills are very rarely defeated in the Commons (I think Blair only ever had 5), and the Lords at the most can only hold a bill up for 2 years. PMs are not dictators, and they require parliamentary alliances to govern. But they are hugely influential on lawmaking - we do not have separation of powers in this country as federal systems do.

[Hazi-Hammenuhoth]

I don't agree with him- but presumably the four million or so Catholics in this country (if they take their religion seriously) do.

We've not had one yet, but it isn't inconceivable (no pun intended) that Britain should vote for a Catholic Prime Minister.

[Khandro]

Krom; //
//politicians get forced into corners by scurrilous reporters looking for a story//

///That is the point of a journalist///

That is a matter of opinion. I didn't have much time for Tim Farron, but I hated to see him being tormented by the press as he was.
Presumably you approved?

[Kromovaracun]

I did, yes. Journalists are supposed to hold politicians to account.

[atalanta]

Abortion is none of his business. It is none of my business, and none of your business. It is her business alone.
What would any RC say if a forced conception was going to infect the raped woman and the unwanted child with a hideous disease ? Would RCs insist that the woman become diseased and give birth to a diseased child ?

[-Talbot-]

So ... Andy, jack & Islay if my wife was pregnant and out of the blue said "I'm having an abortion" it would have zero % to do with me?

[-Talbot-]

Reading back, change Islay to Prudie.

Apologies Islay if you don't share the 100% woman's view

[Celtigra3]

He's an idiot. I wonder if he was a woman if he would hold the same opinion.

[Spicerack]

Should a live aborted baby be left to die?

[Mamyalynne]

No, but it does happen tragically.

[Ellipsis]

> How do you feel?

On JRM, I like him, but no way should he be leader of the Tories and he knows that. In saying what he's said, he's killed two birds with one stone - quashed ideas of him being leader, yet been open and honest about some principles that are important to him.

On abortion, there are women that hold the exact same views as JRM. Does that make those views more valid because a woman holds them? I think not. So, as a man, I'll comment that I agree with the 1967 Abortion Act to the letter - I think it's a fair moral and ethical balance.

[douglas9401]

http://eveningharold.com/2017/09/06/jacob-rees-mogg-still-right-about-everything-this-week-abortion/

[Khandro]

Hope this works;
https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/09/in-defence-of-jacob-rees-mogg/?utm_source=Adestra&;utm_medium=email&;utm_campaign=Lunchtime_Espresso_06092017

[Ellipsis]

I must say, it is amusing that Jacob Rees-Mogg is prepared to let the Catholic Church intervene in his life, his morals and his thinking to that extent, when he is so well-known for resenting the interference of other institutions ...

[hereIam]

Don't agree with abortion if say having a baby is not 'convenient' at the time, but in cases like this, of course the woman should be able to take the morning after pill or have an abortion if she wants - he's a plank !

[youngmafbog]

Reading many of the replies on here it is clear that many have not listened to what he actually said. He clearly stated that "she would have a right under UK law 'interjection by piers' but that law is NOT going to change.

So it is his personal belief he is stating (totally opposite to mine) and also saying he respects the law of the land which is not going to change.

Whilst many on here, myself included, do not agree with him in the slightest I'm not sure AB is the best measure of the population. I suspect this is one of those things many will agree with, even if silently.

And to those saying he can never be a PM because he is Catholic: Would you say the same thing to a devout Muslim in the same circumstances, because they have very similar views?

[Mamyalynne]

Khandro, as I earlier stated I don't agree with him on this or indeed some of his other rigid views and he certainly doesn't need defending, he wouldn't want that anyway.

The Spectator article says it well.