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Is Sadiq Khan The Right Man For The Job?
more Islamic terrorist attacks than ever on London since he has been mayor, and he's always insisting immigrants are always welcome in the capital. Is he really the right man for the job?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.“The real question is, why does London (or any major city) need a £150,000 mayor anyway, wasn't it a Tony Blair invention?”
Indeed Khandro. The very question I was going to ask had you not raised it. Mrs Thatcher went to great lengths to abolish the GLC and life went on quite well as before. (In fact some would argue it went on that much better because there was no longer three-way political strife between the Government, the GLC and London Boroughs). There is thus absolutely no need for a Mayor and assembly.
“There was a 1998 referendum in London asking if folk wanted a London assembly and a Mayor. The vote was 72% in favour.”
Indeed there was. I remember it as if it was only yesterday. One thing I also remember was that the referendum attracted a pathetically low turnout and now I’ve looked it up I see it was just 34%. Using some of our resident Remainers "four-fifths of five-eighths of F-all" that means a mayor and assembly was the choice of less than one in four Londoners.
As I recall, the emphasis was not on an assembly at all. Despite the question on the ballot paper the campaign focussed on “an elected mayor” and made comparisons with the then Mayor of New York, Rudolph Guiliani who made quite a difference to that city by his own personal philosophies and interventions. Politicians, of course, love councils, assemblies, parliaments, and the like. It gives them more strings to their bow so that when they (inevitably) get voted out of one forum they can swiftly stand for election in another. The more the merrier. The tragedy is that because of that it is unlikely in the extreme that London voters will ever again be asked whether they want an unnecessary mayor and assembly. In fact, even if they are asked and they happen to return the “wrong” answer, they will be ignored. Convolutions will follow to ensure that the gravy train will continue down the track, sucking in vast sums of taxpayers’ dosh as it goes, for very little benefit:
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Indeed Khandro. The very question I was going to ask had you not raised it. Mrs Thatcher went to great lengths to abolish the GLC and life went on quite well as before. (In fact some would argue it went on that much better because there was no longer three-way political strife between the Government, the GLC and London Boroughs). There is thus absolutely no need for a Mayor and assembly.
“There was a 1998 referendum in London asking if folk wanted a London assembly and a Mayor. The vote was 72% in favour.”
Indeed there was. I remember it as if it was only yesterday. One thing I also remember was that the referendum attracted a pathetically low turnout and now I’ve looked it up I see it was just 34%. Using some of our resident Remainers "four-fifths of five-eighths of F-all" that means a mayor and assembly was the choice of less than one in four Londoners.
As I recall, the emphasis was not on an assembly at all. Despite the question on the ballot paper the campaign focussed on “an elected mayor” and made comparisons with the then Mayor of New York, Rudolph Guiliani who made quite a difference to that city by his own personal philosophies and interventions. Politicians, of course, love councils, assemblies, parliaments, and the like. It gives them more strings to their bow so that when they (inevitably) get voted out of one forum they can swiftly stand for election in another. The more the merrier. The tragedy is that because of that it is unlikely in the extreme that London voters will ever again be asked whether they want an unnecessary mayor and assembly. In fact, even if they are asked and they happen to return the “wrong” answer, they will be ignored. Convolutions will follow to ensure that the gravy train will continue down the track, sucking in vast sums of taxpayers’ dosh as it goes, for very little benefit:
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And just to be clear, Mikey, I have felt the same about the post of Mayor of London ever since its inception. So this covers the Livingstone era, the Johnson years and those of the current incumbent. It makes no difference to me what the political persuasion of the postholder is, nor am I interested in his colour, creed or nationality. It is an unnecessary post (as are most in any form of local government or devolved assemblies) and is an unwanted extravagance.
"I'm sure the London voters were able to sort the wheat from the chaff when racing their conclusions."
Well in 1998 two thirds of them couldn't even be bothered to try. I'm not dismissing the validity of the result based on a low turnout. Those who didn't vote all had their reasons and if they wanted to see a particular outcome they should have got off their backsides. I seem to recall that at the time most people couldn't care less. Well now they are paying for their indifference and they won't have a chance to answer the question again.
Well in 1998 two thirds of them couldn't even be bothered to try. I'm not dismissing the validity of the result based on a low turnout. Those who didn't vote all had their reasons and if they wanted to see a particular outcome they should have got off their backsides. I seem to recall that at the time most people couldn't care less. Well now they are paying for their indifference and they won't have a chance to answer the question again.
On the subject of whether there should be a mayor at all, I rather wonder if it kind of follows on logically from the principles behind Brexit, taking back control and all that, to have more power and responsibility at a local level as opposed to centralised nationally.
Therefore I hate the idea of city mayors ...
No, but, seriously... doesn't it?
Therefore I hate the idea of city mayors ...
No, but, seriously... doesn't it?