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Farcical Universal Credit Debate In The Commons
It was a Labour motion to pause UC roll out.
All the Consevatives abstained enmasse.
Can anyone argue that the entire debate and vote was not an utter waste of everyones time and effort ?
All the Consevatives abstained enmasse.
Can anyone argue that the entire debate and vote was not an utter waste of everyones time and effort ?
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"In a symbolic vote, MPs backed a pause after Tory MPs were told to abstain.
The opposition won by 299 votes to 0 with one Conservative - Totnes MP Sarah Wollaston - defying her party by siding with Labour.
The outcome is not binding on the government although shadow work and pensions secretary Debbie Abrahams said it was a "major defeat for the government" and urged them to clarify their position.
Commons Speaker John Bercow advised ministers to take account of the "clearly expressed" wishes of the House and "show respect for the institution" by indicating what they intend to do."
The opposition won by 299 votes to 0 with one Conservative - Totnes MP Sarah Wollaston - defying her party by siding with Labour.
The outcome is not binding on the government although shadow work and pensions secretary Debbie Abrahams said it was a "major defeat for the government" and urged them to clarify their position.
Commons Speaker John Bercow advised ministers to take account of the "clearly expressed" wishes of the House and "show respect for the institution" by indicating what they intend to do."
// Commons Speaker John Bercow advised ministers to take account of the "clearly expressed" wishes of the House and "show respect for the institution" by indicating what they intend to do." //
Theresa May will carry on regardless with this flawed flawed policy because it fits with Tory doctrine (but defies common sense). She is out of touch, and will pay the consequences like Margaret Thatcher did when she ploughed on with the poll Tax despite all the good advice of her Cabinet, who said it was a vote loser.
Theresa May will carry on regardless with this flawed flawed policy because it fits with Tory doctrine (but defies common sense). She is out of touch, and will pay the consequences like Margaret Thatcher did when she ploughed on with the poll Tax despite all the good advice of her Cabinet, who said it was a vote loser.
“Theresa May will carry on regardless with this flawed flawed policy…”
The policy is not flawed. Any attempt to simplify the ridiculous UK benefits system can only be applauded. But I do fully accept that the implementation has not been a success. Almost anything any government (of any colour) does that involves administration of its IT systems fails and this is no different. But the policy is not flawed.
The policy is not flawed. Any attempt to simplify the ridiculous UK benefits system can only be applauded. But I do fully accept that the implementation has not been a success. Almost anything any government (of any colour) does that involves administration of its IT systems fails and this is no different. But the policy is not flawed.
NJ...I would agree with you that the policy is not flawed. The old system was overly complicated and it plainly needed sorting out. But the implementation of it IS deeply flawed.
All that the Opposition motion was suggesting yesterday, is that the full implementation of it, across the country as a whole should be paused, until these serious concerns are dealt with.
The Government now finds itself in an unenviable situation, entirely of its own making. Mrs May put up David Gauke to debate with Labour. I watched at least 2 hours of it yesterday and he made a spirited defence of UC, which has a lot of good going for it. But after all her Ministers hard work, she then pulled the rug out from beneath him and ordered her MPs to abstain, because she was in grave danger of losing.
Bercow is right....Parliament has been dealt with in a very shabby fashion.
Sir Edward Leigh, a senior Tory MP has now weighed in and criticised his own Party :::
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Mrs May is losing control.
All that the Opposition motion was suggesting yesterday, is that the full implementation of it, across the country as a whole should be paused, until these serious concerns are dealt with.
The Government now finds itself in an unenviable situation, entirely of its own making. Mrs May put up David Gauke to debate with Labour. I watched at least 2 hours of it yesterday and he made a spirited defence of UC, which has a lot of good going for it. But after all her Ministers hard work, she then pulled the rug out from beneath him and ordered her MPs to abstain, because she was in grave danger of losing.
Bercow is right....Parliament has been dealt with in a very shabby fashion.
Sir Edward Leigh, a senior Tory MP has now weighed in and criticised his own Party :::
http://
Mrs May is losing control.
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