Brown : "game Changing Deal" ?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41899727
What possible deal would make the leavers not want to leave?

[EDDIE51]

You tell us! You are AB's principle anti EU spokesperson !

[ToraToraTora]

Nothing would persuade me not to go, I was wondering what Brown and others think could influence others possibly and how that would halt the process. Which is why I asked the question Eddie.

[cassa333]

Nothing would make me change my mind because the EU can't give back sovereignty in any meaningful way.

No amount of money back, money off, trade deals or pretend concessions is going to change the way the EU works or power grabs.

[jim360]

Assuming the vote were rerun with only people who voted last time allowed to participate, it wouldn't take many Leave voters to switch for the opposite result to happen. So something like 95% of Leave voters could be unswayed by anything and 5% could switch because they don't like the economic fallout, and that would be enough.

But maybe some remain voters would switch too. But I said it before: I don't think that enough has happened yet for many people to really feel inclined to change their minds from 2016.

[Zacs-Master]

‘But he predicted a "crisis point", when Leave voters realised they were not going to get what they were promised’

Well, blow me down wiv a fevver Tora. Cor lummy and no mistake guv.

[jourdain2]

Nothing that I can think of would make me change my 'Leave' vote. If anything the EU has made their Federalist aims clearer and I would never vote to be subsumed into a docile, amorphous, powerless mass!

[Zacs-Master]

Yeah, because you’ve got SO much power now haven’t you. A government that implements your every wish..........oh hang on a minute.

Careful,what you wish (vote) for eh?

[jourdain2]

The current government comprises mainly 'Remainers' who are reluctantly enabling 'Leave' and so making a pig's breakfast of it. I am still clear about what I want and this government does not reflect it. I will never change my mind.

[Zacs-Master]

So you don’t want to be in the EU and you don’t believe the current government can give you what you want. How does that equate to having some power?

[jourdain2]

That's the problem. :)

[Zacs-Master]

Yes I know. So what’s the answer. You’ve already professed that leaving the EU isn’t the answer with the current Govt?

[andy-hughes]

The notion that people didn't 'get what they want' only flies if they have a chance to vote again, and that is not likely to happen.

Mr Brown seems to be confusing elections - which happen regularly, and people can and do change their minds, and those changes have a mechanism to change the government - and a referendum, which is a one-off, and you don't get to have another one simply because you didn't like the result the first time round.

[Zacs-Master]

Do you get to have one if the Govt you voted in doesn’t deliver democracy?

[naomi24]

Zacs, the current government isn’t giving Leavers what they want because Leavers want simply to leave - and that would also apply if Labour was leading Brexit. Remaining in the EU, however, gives Leavers even less of what they want so actually there's no contest. We have to opt for the lesser of the two evils really.

[jourdain2]

Is there an emoji for a shrug? I really don't know, unless we get some strong 'Leavers' in power, who have a clear vision of the end they wish to attain and the courage to push for it. This lot are making us sacrificial victims - and, yes, we are powerless. I could scream!

[Zacs-Master]

Naomi, you have no argument from me there. But the gap between the ‘evils’ grows ever closer.

[naomi24]

You're just trying to scare me. Not nice before bed. ;o)

[Zacs-Master]

Ha! sweet dreams. X

[jourdain2]

On which post.............''night all :)

[naomi24]

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