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Brexit Date To Be Set By Statute.....
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The EU clearly do not want to negotiate so we're off, well done Mrs May. So much for the "we'll never leave" brigade.
The EU clearly do not want to negotiate so we're off, well done Mrs May. So much for the "we'll never leave" brigade.
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what I don't get is the EU approach, ie linear, we are not moving on until we get agreement on the first thing on our list. Normally sticking points are put to one side and agreement reached on things that are easier to reach an agreement on and pick up the more challenging stuff later. That way progress can be shown. The EU seem determined to stick to an unreasonable position at the exclusion of all else.
She went to the country asking for a majority to deliver Brexit. She lost the majority she got. Guess you could argue that's a rejection of her message, no?
For sure, there were a lot of other factors at play. May might have gone altogether, but for the SNP jumping on the second referendum train a couple of stops too early and pushing enough Scots to vote Tory to give May an extra dozen seats north of the border.
For sure, there were a lot of other factors at play. May might have gone altogether, but for the SNP jumping on the second referendum train a couple of stops too early and pushing enough Scots to vote Tory to give May an extra dozen seats north of the border.
No she went to the country to reinforce here position, that back fired but the reasons where primarily other factors
- Huge own goals in the campaign, alienating the grey vote for example.
- labour promising students to abolish fees and loan reapayments
- massive polarisation of the electorate, TM got more votes than St Tony in 1997 but due to the massive polarisation between Blue and red they cancelled each other out.
if it was about brexit then she got a more actual votes than the last Cameron Victory so I'd say it was approval from the electorate but as the above factors demonstrate this was far from a "brexit election".
- Huge own goals in the campaign, alienating the grey vote for example.
- labour promising students to abolish fees and loan reapayments
- massive polarisation of the electorate, TM got more votes than St Tony in 1997 but due to the massive polarisation between Blue and red they cancelled each other out.
if it was about brexit then she got a more actual votes than the last Cameron Victory so I'd say it was approval from the electorate but as the above factors demonstrate this was far from a "brexit election".
TTT do you ever actually read a link before you post it?
It actually says Mrs May has outlined plans to set the leave date by law. That is a long way from actually doing it.
At the moment her position as leader is so weak she virtually has to ask permission to go to the Loo. She is in no position to demand anything and MP's on both sides know it.
It actually says Mrs May has outlined plans to set the leave date by law. That is a long way from actually doing it.
At the moment her position as leader is so weak she virtually has to ask permission to go to the Loo. She is in no position to demand anything and MP's on both sides know it.
It's a weird gesture because it could also tie the UK into leaving before it's ready to do so. And -- sure -- Brexiters may say they just want to leave anyway, and are happy to take any short-term hit, but since that hit won't be so precisely targeted as just on those who don't mind, it seems very... undemocratic.
We're going to leave the EU. Let's get it right. And certainly, let's not herald a "new era of sovereignty" by refusing to allow any questions and scrutiny for how that process is to be started. A bill shouldn't automatically pass without any examination just because it has "BREXIT" in capital letters a few times.
We're going to leave the EU. Let's get it right. And certainly, let's not herald a "new era of sovereignty" by refusing to allow any questions and scrutiny for how that process is to be started. A bill shouldn't automatically pass without any examination just because it has "BREXIT" in capital letters a few times.
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