Pressure To Build Millions Of New Homes, Overwhelming Due To The Number Of Migrants.

[anotheoldgit]

Have we been lied to?

/// Communities Secretary Sajid Javid told the Commons in February that ‘two-thirds of housing demand has nothing to do with immigration’ and was down to natural population growth. ///

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5083647/Migration-report-builds-pressure-new-housing.html

[gulliver1]

" Have we been lied to" He is a CON MP, they just can't help it.

[jackthehat]

As a nation we have been failing to keep up with housing demand for decades.
It is no surprise that we are under pressure to build more.

[andy-hughes]

Politicians are never above serving their own interests.

We now have the results of the combination of two of them - Margaret Thatcher sold off housing stock to get votes, Tony Blair opened the doors to migrants to get votes, now we have too many people and not enough houses.

And what happened to those two as a result of their policies?

Money, a comfortable life, (and death) and no come-backs whatsoever.

So no change there then.

[gulliver1]

Andy Hughes , Very good answer very true.

[emmie]

whatever housing gets built will likely end up on green land, which many people object to. especially those in small villages.

[Gromit]

I cannot find the Labour Force Survey data on which Immigration Watch base there report, but they are making claims which I am suspicious of:

// In London ALL of the additional households formed in the last ten years were headed up by someone born overseas. //

Really? Not one single British person set up a new home in London in the last 10 years? Commonsense says that is rubbish.
I suspect Immigration Watch are also trying to hoodwink us.

[Baldric]

Don't forget,
///The Labour Party initially proposed the idea of the right of tenants to own the house they live in, in their manifesto for the 1959 general election///
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_Buy#History

[Gromit]

// Don't forget,
The Labour Party initially proposed the idea of the right of tenants to own the house they live in, in their manifesto for the 1959 general election //

Which they lost, so never put into action.

[jno]

Gromit, it is rubbish. jno jnr set up home in the last 10 years and he is British-born.

It only takes one such person to disprove any nonsensical claim beginning "NONE..."

[jno]

Baldric, don't point out that TGL was adopting socialist policy or TTT will go into meltdown.

But it was a socialist policy, of course - giving other people's proerty away.

[jackthehat]

There is so much land that could be brought into commission first before we start to use up the countryside (actually, there is quite a lot of that which could be used without 'spoiling' the land).

There needs to be a shift in Planning Laws/Rules/Regulations to help ease the pressure.

[jno]

jth, the trouble down here is that it's being used to build flats that lie empty because oligarchs and sheikhs buy them as an investment; property inflation far outstrips the interest they could get in the bank. Councils don't care, they just collect the rates. Something like 300 buildings over 20 storeys are in the pipeline (already approved) as I recall.

[Togo]

// Margaret Thatcher sold off housing stock to get votes//

Which subsequently became empty or were knocked down.

[Baldric]

///Which they lost, so never put into action///

True, but had they won they would have implemented the policy and taken the blame instead of Maggie, weren't they lucky?

[jackthehat]

I understand that London has its' own problems when it comes to affordable/any housing but that isn't necessarily true across the country.
There is great opportunity for solutions to be found which are neither City-centric nor countryside gobbling.......there just needs to be the will - from all quarters.

[emmie]

London has the biggest problem of all, all these shiny new buildings are way out of the league of ordinary folk.

[anotheoldgit]

Gromit

Where did you get that statement regarding London homes from?

[Togo]

What Gromit posts.
\\ I cannot find the Labour Force Survey data on which Immigration Watch base there report, but they are making claims which I am suspicious of:

// In London ALL of the additional households formed in the last ten years were headed up by someone born overseas. // \\

What was said.
//according to the Labour Force Survey by the Office for National Statistics, 1.65 million of the two million new households needing homes in England between 2000 and 2015 were headed by someone who was an immigrant.//

Noyt quite ALL then but a lot.

[Togo]

What Migrant Watch says.
// officials are using immigration figures that are far below the real levels and ignoring the effect of new families formed by young immigrants already in the UK.
‘Consider eight Polish men in their twenties who arrived in England in 2012 and live together in a shared house,’ the report said. ‘Together they currently form one household. However, as they age and perhaps settle down with partners and have children they will go on to form up to eight separate family households.’
Migration Watch chief Lord Green said: ‘We have a major crisis over housing affecting huge numbers of people, especially the young.
'Yet the focus of debate is still on supply; nobody dares talk about demand and its principle driver, immigration.//

Of course any "family" born to these young migrants in Britain become......tada British. For the purpose of surveys and statistics anyway. But not neccessarily for the support, and concern, for British heritage and culture.

[Togo]

Meanwhile whilst the British public look on with horror and anguish and are encouraged to "blame themselves" for the housing crisis, figures revealed in two new reviews by the Chief Inspector of Borders and Immigration showed that nearly 56,000 foreign nationals have disappeared from the radar of the British authorities after being told that they were required to leave the country. This figure includes over 700 foreign national offenders (FNOs) who went missing after being released into the community from prison. It also revealed that around 80,000 foreign nationals are required to check in on a regular basis at police stations and immigration centres while authorities prepare for them to leave the country. By the end of 2016, just under 56,000 of them had failed to keep appointments and had become persons "whose whereabouts are unknown and all mandatory procedures to re-establish contact with the migrant have failed."
Wonder where they are all living? In homes and dwellings that don't exist?