The Uk’S Housing Crisis

[Jahulaye]

Should we start building up again?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/new-homes/9795268/To-solve-Britains-housing-crisis-we-must-build-up-not-out.html

All around me they’re tearing down 60’s high risers and replacing them with small modern mini housing estates, should we start building up again? Not in the same 60’s style but maybe mega high risers a mile high like a pyramid with built in shopping malls,l Ext? Essentials mini cities?

[tonyav]

no.

[Jahulaye]

So what would be a better way Tonyav?

[pastafreak]

We need communities, not high rises.

[Jahulaye]

Pyramid high risers with its own hospitals, schools, parks, malls, own communitys etc.. I saw it on a film or in a book once, seems perfect for our housing crisis.

[Fairlight]

I am not keen on building up, but what the solution is I`m not sure.

[EDDIE51]

As I just said in another thread. We are told we need to grow more food to replace imports once we are out of the EU which means more land for farming. But we are also told we need to build 200,000 new houses a year just to keep pace with the natural increase in population. How will we find the land to do both?

[Jahulaye]

Up seems the most logical but I’ve always wondered about subterranean cities like raccoon city on resident evil, would that be viable?

[fiction-factory]

Tower blocks built for council properties have not really worked, partly because of poor design and partly because of social factors in terms of residents as well as issues of safety, neglect, etc. However high rise apartments have proved very popular for private ownership, offering fabulous views close to prme locations, so if they are built to a good standard and those who live there help look after them they could be successful

[EDDIE51]

^ I was just waiting for someone to blame immigrants, but as we all know, all immigrants will magically disappear as soon as we leave the EU . So there will not be a problem after all.

[-Talbot-]

just to keep pace with the natural increase in population.


What is the ' natural increase in population' EDDIE, can you put a figure on that please.

[douglas9401]

We can build up if we keep the low-lifes low down.

Build and maintain the things properly and it's no problem as the rest of the world shows. Communal areas can easily be included and communities can develop from there.
The biggest problem may be that the builders and their political mates resist plans because they can't sell their usual tat at grossly inflated prices to a desperate/gullible public.

[237SJ]

^ Look it up for yourself. It's not difficult

[Old_Geezer]

The solution is to convince folk not to have too many kids, regardless whether they think it's ok because they personally can afford them (the country nor the world can't) nor whether they think it's ok because society owes them a living and gullible taxpayers must pay (they mustn't). And to ensure zero net immigration.

Meanwhile the estate agents have houses for sell. If folk can't afford them then apply for a council house. There's no magic wand.

[EDDIE51]

Dubai has the answer
http://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/dubai-floating-venice-resort/index.html
They are building floating cities on artificial Islands , they are also planning underwater housing. They already have an underwater hotel.

[cassa333]

You could build up but perhaps not as high rise as previously.

Maybe just three or four floors with a mix of flats and masonettes. Two floor house on the bottom for families and two floors of flats. Not box like the old styles.

Nothing worse than looking at or perhaps living In matchboxes that have no character.

I doubt we are going to need to make more land available for food production because of Brexit. Firstly there will be producers more than willing and able to sell to us but also our own growers will pick up the slack that has been left by subsidies not to grow.

There is plenty of agricultural and brownfield land that can be returned to agriculture and housing.

[-Talbot-]

237SJ
^ Look it up for yourself. It's not difficult



What is it then?

[Old_Geezer]

And no. I reckon souless high rise has proved an error. Most don't want umpteen flights of stairs and living in boxes on top of each other. Or over the the shops for that matter.

[Jahulaye]

Containers ship communities are another idea to quick housing

Luxury and standard, some are amazing

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ship+containers+houses&client=safari&channel=iphone_bm&dcr=0&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&;tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5v5vbid3XAhWpJcAKHfFpD-AQ_AUIEigB&biw=375&;bih=553#imgrc=_

[EDDIE51]

Talbot, I am quoting what was said by political commentators after the budget cut stamp duty on house sales. The figure of 200,000 new homes a year was quoted several times as just what was needed to cope with the natural growth of population.

[Islay]

What about renovating the 80,000 emptyi council houses throughout the uk and using them first ?