Should The Uk Now Move Its Embassy To The Capital City Of Israel?

[ToraToraTora]

Now that Trump has honoured his Election pledge should the rest of the world now follow suit?

[Khandro]

Palestinians and their allies have been leveraging international bodies such as the United Nations for years in an attempt to get their way outside of the peace process.
This is exactly what President Barack Hussein Obama did in his final parting shot at Israel before leaving office.
Former Congresswoman Shelley Berkley, a Nevada Democrat, attacked Israel-hating Obama in fairly blunt terms in the final weeks of his presidency.
Obama stood by and did nothing when the United Nations “stooped to a new low … passing a Security Council resolution with the transparent goal of delegitimizing Israel and damaging the prospects for a lasting negotiated peace with the Palestinians.”

The Obama administration’s decision to abstain, allowing the UN’s highest body to condemn Israel in such harsh and biased terms, declare settlements an illegal obstacle to peace, and call the eternal capital of the Jewish people “occupied,” is unprecedented and dangerous. The resolution passed by the Security Council suggests that the location of the most holy site for the Jewish people, the Western Wall, is not in Israel, and that the Old City of Jerusalem is a "settlement."

What a difference a presidential election makes.

Frontpage

[naomi24]

Where did you copy that from, Khandro - or shall I guess?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Mikey: //For once I support what Naomi is saying (!)//

For once I don't. Palestine as a nation has never existed. The last independent nation (the southern Judah bit of Israel) ended with Nechadnezzar in 586BC, didn't it? And that nation was Jewish, the clue being in the name Judah. Ever since then Jerusalem itself has been under foreign control of some sort. I think the term Palestine (presumably from the Philistines) began life as a geographical designation when that part of the world was part of the Roman Empire. The closest thing it has ever been to a political entity was under the British mandate, wasn't it?

Actually I (and Naomi) ought to know precisely about all this because I've had Karen Armstrong's "History of Jerusalem" on Kindle for at least two years and haven't (to my shame) got round to reading it.Fields of Blood", Khandro) And it was you, Naomi, who recommended it, wasn't it?

(I've just started reading her "Fields of Blood", Khandro.)

[vetuste_ennemi]

Sorry for the garbled text (no rude comments, please).

[Khandro]

naomi; //Where did you copy that from, //
It says plainly in italics at the bottom, no secret, - and I'm still awaiting your history lesson.

v_e. I read F. of B. cover to cover, it is a comprehensive and detailed tour de force, so many facts for my feeble brain to retain, but it is a mine of reference material and with a good index. Her overview of history and world religions is magisterial.

[Caran]

I am very confused. I have always thought Jerusalem was the capital. My crossword list book says it is too.
What is the city that was supposedly the capital then?

[naomi24]

v_e, I don’t know what I said that Mikey’s supporting. Yes, I did recommend the book - and I’ve read it.

Khandro, sorry, I didn’t realise that Frontpage was from The David Horowitz Freedom Center. (I googled it).

[naomi24]

Caran, Israel says Jerusalem - the rest of the world says Tel Aviv.

[vetuste_ennemi]

I'm enjoying the book despite its Margaret Mead meets Karl Marx presuppositions - noble savage and systemic violence stuff (not that such stuff is totally untrue, Khandro.

Ms Armstrong (along with the poster who first got me to read her biography "Mohammed") bears most of the responsibility for my unashamed hatred of Islam.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Mikey declared his support on the other thread about matters Palestinian, then, Naomi. I was going to comment on it yesterday, but suffered a broadband outage.

[vetuste_ennemi]

It was Mikey's "Us To Recognise Jerusalem As Israel's Capital In World First" thread.

The historical references in this thread got me confused (as so often happens these days).,

[Caran]

Thank you naomi

[Khandro]

There can be no peace in this religious war, moving the embassy or not will make no difference to that, so it is the right move.

A superb article here;
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/268625/president-trumps-jerusalem-move-deals-blow-terror-daniel-greenfield

[Khandro]

Erdogan and Macron; Trump should change his mind,
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trump-turkey-france-israel/erdogan-and-macron-to-urge-u-s-to-turn-back-on-jerusalem-decision-sources-idUKKBN1E30GM?il=0
Well good luck with that lads.