Labour's Worse Under Jeremy Corbyn Than It Was With Militant In The Eighties, Claims Tony Blair

[naomi24]

He said Labour is in “much worse” shape now than during the Eighties under Michael Foot’s leadership.and claimed Jeremy Corbyn had allowed “extreme elements” to adopt dominant positions in the party.

“Now is worse,” he said. “Much worse, because it’s happening with the support of the leadership. They are bringing back the more extreme elements that were either outside the party or marginalised.”

His words will deepen the alarm felt by centrist Labour MPs about the rise of the Left under Mr Corbyn, whose allies last week secured a majority on the National Executive Committee and took over the chair of the party’s powerful disputes committee.
Labour MP Mary Creagh warned the party leadership not to be inward-looking amid reports that up to 50 MPs will be targeted for deselection by Leftists.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/labours-worse-under-corbyn-than-it-was-with-militant-in-the-eighties-claims-blair-a3746286.html

Right or wrong?

[sp1814]

Kromovaracun

Some solid points there actually (your post at 14:11). I've always thought of Blair's premiership as being social liberal, but I cannot argue with the items you list there.

[mikey4444]

Emmie....yes, many are critical of May, but continue to vote for her and support her, in the same way that they did with Cameron and the truly useless Major before them.

[emmie]

perhaps they don't like the alternative, i don't like Corbyn and wouldn't ever vote Labour, I despised Tony Blair right from the start of his reign and never left off.

[Jackdaw33]

If Major was so useless, how come he won in 1992 against all the odds?

[naomi24]

Mikey, //many are critical of May, but continue to vote for her and support her, in the same way that they did with Cameron and the truly useless Major before them. //

You've been told before, most Conservatives - in fact most sensible people - don't vote for leaders, but for politics.

[bhg481]

I think very few elections are won, they are lost by the opposition throwing in a silly policy in the hope that it won't get noticed. Mrs May almost lost the last election so, with no viable third party, labour gained a lot of votes and thought they had become popular.

[Sammylad]

I actually think that Tony Blairs views are always worth considering. He was PM for 10 years, and obviously from being in that position gained alot of insight into the way voters react. Labour was totally unelectable in 1983, and I think that we reached "peak Corbyn" in last years election. The party is now moving even further to the left, and no party this extreme will be electable. The biggest thing in Labours favour is the massive membership of the party that Corbyn has brought about, but even this wont be enough to persuade people that extremists such as John McDonald, Seamus Milne and Diane Abbott should be running this country.

[Jackdaw33]

Diane Abbott! That name alone should be sufficient to consign Labour to permanent opposition.

[naomi24]

sammylad, //The biggest thing in Labours favour is the massive membership of the party that Corbyn has brought about//

Labour is going to need rather more than members to vote for them in a general election. I think by careering manically to the left as they’re doing they’re shooting themselves in the foot - but I'm very happy for them to continue.

[Sammylad]

I agree with that Naomi, what I meant was the massive membership of the party is a great advantage when the next election is called, in terms of canvassing, helping out, campaigning (online and door to door) etc. This was the case last time, and will be even more so next time.

[naomi24]

sammylad, yes, I suppose it will be - but hopefully by then those who were gullible enough to be taken in by Corbyn's rhetoric last year will be seeing the results of this fiasco and hearing pennies dropping.

[Jackdaw33]

As I have said elsewhere, whether Labour are bad or good matters not a jot to me. They will never get my vote, even if the Archangel Gabriel became leader.