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Work Assesments
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Story from my local paper,
This guy has had a medical assessment and been placed in the Work Related Activity Group (WRAG) which means that he will have to attend job centre interviews even though he is unable to work. WHY for God's sakes?
Yes, we all know that there are workshy benefit claimants, but this guy cant even get out of a car by himself. I have a nephew with the same condition and its not an easy life even trying to do everyday thing let alone seek an employer that will take you on, even if you could do a job.
I have a friend who is a sever schizophrenic (amongst other conditions) and can be a danger to both himself and others if he isn't medicated. He spent over 6 months in a psychiatric unit until they got him stabelized with meds but the down side is that his meds basically leave him doped up. He recently has been told that he is fit for work, (after a medical) the only way he would be fit for work is if he stopped taking his meds and then who knows what would happen.
These DWP medical assessments are cruel and inhumane to sick people.
Your fitness to work should be decided by your own GP and not some heartless bureaucrat with no training in your medical condition.
Story from my local paper,
This guy has had a medical assessment and been placed in the Work Related Activity Group (WRAG) which means that he will have to attend job centre interviews even though he is unable to work. WHY for God's sakes?
Yes, we all know that there are workshy benefit claimants, but this guy cant even get out of a car by himself. I have a nephew with the same condition and its not an easy life even trying to do everyday thing let alone seek an employer that will take you on, even if you could do a job.
I have a friend who is a sever schizophrenic (amongst other conditions) and can be a danger to both himself and others if he isn't medicated. He spent over 6 months in a psychiatric unit until they got him stabelized with meds but the down side is that his meds basically leave him doped up. He recently has been told that he is fit for work, (after a medical) the only way he would be fit for work is if he stopped taking his meds and then who knows what would happen.
These DWP medical assessments are cruel and inhumane to sick people.
Your fitness to work should be decided by your own GP and not some heartless bureaucrat with no training in your medical condition.
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This might be a daft question, but is this the same ATOS that that provides data and results on the Winter Olympics website?
If so, what are they doing deciding whether people are fit to work or not?
They have put up a very good Olympic website, but if they are the same people, they're rubbish and unfair at the work assessment.
If so, what are they doing deciding whether people are fit to work or not?
They have put up a very good Olympic website, but if they are the same people, they're rubbish and unfair at the work assessment.
ATOS are gone re the work assessments now I think, but yes, the same outfit.
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No stranger to controversy.
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ATOS don't and never did decide on a claimant's incapacity. That is carried out by a DWP Decision Maker.
ATOS used to have the contracts for carrying out the assessments but that ended a couple of year ago and Maximus have that contract.
In case folk think that those in the WRAG have to attend the same type of Jobcentre interviews each fortnight that IS A claimants do, that is not the case.
ESA claimants will be attending Work-Focussed Interviews (WFIs) when their Coaches will discuss ways of getting them ready for employment in the future.
Having spina bifida does not automatically preclude employment but clearly there are varying degrees of capability.
It is also interesting to note that the charity mentioned in the link, Shine, has a guide on disability and employment.
ATOS used to have the contracts for carrying out the assessments but that ended a couple of year ago and Maximus have that contract.
In case folk think that those in the WRAG have to attend the same type of Jobcentre interviews each fortnight that IS A claimants do, that is not the case.
ESA claimants will be attending Work-Focussed Interviews (WFIs) when their Coaches will discuss ways of getting them ready for employment in the future.
Having spina bifida does not automatically preclude employment but clearly there are varying degrees of capability.
It is also interesting to note that the charity mentioned in the link, Shine, has a guide on disability and employment.
Hardly relevant now, but this thread reminded me of my ATOS assessment many years ago. I took a cab there, but just walking from the cab into the office left me breathless.
I stumbled and fell walking to the assessors office. Once there I foolishly did as I was asked, and was left unable to tie my shoelaces having taken them off to lay on the couch. The assessor ignored my predicament completely.
I struggled the get home on two buses, and at the end of the journey, I fell off the bus, then had to phone for a taxi just to go about 500 yards.
I hadn't been diagnosed then, as I had an MRI due to be taken, a fact I told ATOS about. They however decided I was fit to work, and even when a reason for my issues had now been established (brain tumour), they said it made no difference to the result. I had to appeal and then travel even further in order to make the appeal.
I couldn't do it, so basically took the easier option to forget claiming at all, and just cashed an endowment policy in to survive. I had that option, many don't.
Even now, having qualified for Disability Allowance and later PIP, I have been assessed FOUR times, despite the fact that the brain tumour cannot be removed without serious risk of death or worse. Worse being, by the way, a vegetable!
Nothing changed and won't change, yet they still waste money checking I'm not swinging the lead.
Not cancer, btw, for anyone who doesn't know. Just benign but inoperable.
I stumbled and fell walking to the assessors office. Once there I foolishly did as I was asked, and was left unable to tie my shoelaces having taken them off to lay on the couch. The assessor ignored my predicament completely.
I struggled the get home on two buses, and at the end of the journey, I fell off the bus, then had to phone for a taxi just to go about 500 yards.
I hadn't been diagnosed then, as I had an MRI due to be taken, a fact I told ATOS about. They however decided I was fit to work, and even when a reason for my issues had now been established (brain tumour), they said it made no difference to the result. I had to appeal and then travel even further in order to make the appeal.
I couldn't do it, so basically took the easier option to forget claiming at all, and just cashed an endowment policy in to survive. I had that option, many don't.
Even now, having qualified for Disability Allowance and later PIP, I have been assessed FOUR times, despite the fact that the brain tumour cannot be removed without serious risk of death or worse. Worse being, by the way, a vegetable!
Nothing changed and won't change, yet they still waste money checking I'm not swinging the lead.
Not cancer, btw, for anyone who doesn't know. Just benign but inoperable.
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